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Korean maps - why no scales?

 
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Enigma



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 2:52 pm    Post subject: Korean maps - why no scales? Reply with quote

I've noticed that on many Korean maps, there are no linear scales allowing you to estimate the distance between places. I realize that some maps are "not to scale", but even on maps that obviously are "to scale", they frequently don't include one. I usually use them when I'm traveling to give me some idea of how long it takes to get from one spot to another.
I just don't understand why they wouldn't include one. They've obviously gone to a lot of work to make the map, so why not finish the job and throw on a scale? Do Koreans not use them? I just don't understand why something that is standard on most non-Korean maps is for some reason left off here.
If anyone's got a legitimate answer (or I guess even a decent theory) I'd appreciate it. Thanks.
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seoulsucker



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, that can be a little frustrating. That, and the fact that many subway maps (that show the exits and the area around the station) don't put North "up" on the map. That can be really confusing.
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Weigookin74



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You assume Korea is logical.
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nathanrutledge



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have an atlas of Korea, and it has scales in it. I've found that the nicer maps usually have them, as do a lot of the tourist maps do, but I've definitely seen my share that haven't, you're right. Maybe it's the related to the reason that they don't (until these days) have addresses like we do in the west. People generally know where they're going, and if they don't, they ask people who can give them a solid answer. Maybe?

As far as the maps in the subway, I've noticed that the maps are usually oriented the way you are facing, which, being underground, doesn't really mean a thing. I used to live in Byeongjeom, which is an above ground station and I noticed that the maps were 180 degrees from each other depending on what side of the platform you were looking at them.
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le-paul



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

someone once to told me it was for military/defence purposes. Not sure how much truth there is in that.

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nathanrutledge



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

le-paul wrote:
someone once to told me it was for military/defence purposes. Not sure ho much truth there is in that.


My first thought was "what? that's stupid."

But now that you mention it, someone did tell me once that the lack of street signs and addresses WAS related to national defense. Kind of a fail safe, that foreigners/invading forces wouldn't be able to look up an address and go there, they'd have to "know" the city/area.

Don't really know how that relates to maps, though. Even though the maps don't orient north, they DO have the compass rose on there to tell you which way north is...?
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le-paul



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

until around 10 years ago, GPs systems (in the UK) that were used for hiking/driving etc were purposefully inacurate to 50/100m so that foreign sources could not pin point an exact location should they chose to fire on it.
Korean maps (Im assuming the thread is about our equivalent to Ordanance Survey maps that are grid referenced to a scale of down to 1:10,000) missing 'scale' and grid ('grid north to south' as you cannot stop someone from making 'magnetic north' or 'true north') so that you cant make a 'grid reference' in event of an attack.

Thats my guess


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blackjack



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nathanrutledge wrote:
le-paul wrote:
someone once to told me it was for military/defence purposes. Not sure ho much truth there is in that.


My first thought was "what? that's stupid."

But now that you mention it, someone did tell me once that the lack of street signs and addresses WAS related to national defense. Kind of a fail safe, that foreigners/invading forces wouldn't be able to look up an address and go there, they'd have to "know" the city/area.

Don't really know how that relates to maps, though. Even though the maps don't orient north, they DO have the compass rose on there to tell you which way north is...?


also in England during the war didn't they take down all street and town signs to slow down german invaders?
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le-paul



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that was also because we had to make ariplanes out of them for the battle of Britain Smile
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nathanrutledge



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

le-paul wrote:
until around 10 years ago, GPs systems (in the UK) that were used for hiking/driving etc were purposefully inacurate to 50/100m so that foreign sources could not pin point an exact location should they chose to fire on it.
Korean maps (Im assuming the thread is about our equivalent to Ordanance Survey maps that are grid referenced to a scale of down to 1:10,000) missing 'scale' and grid ('grid north to south' as you cannot stop someone from making 'magnetic north' or 'true north') so that you cant make a 'grid reference' in event of an attack.

Thats my guess



The GPS units around the world were only accurate to within dozens of meters because GPS is a US system designed and used by the military. It has always been very accurate, but unless you had a military receiver, you couldn't use it accurately - the satellites sent out data that was only read correctly by military receivers. Clinton issued an order that the signal be unscrambled in May 2000, and we've had pinpoint accuracy ever since.
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