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UK muslims burn poppies at Remembrance Day ceremony
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PigeonFart



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 4:44 am    Post subject: UK muslims burn poppies at Remembrance Day ceremony Reply with quote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cetGUdada8g
UK muslims burn poppies at Remembrance Day ceremony

How does that make you British citizens feel?
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recessiontime



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

how do the conquered feel when the conquerors give approval of violence against them? Because that is exactly what the British are implying when they stand in silence. They are basically approving of their soldiers going to war in Afghanistan or Iraq and they are sad that they have died. They never considered that their peace is at the cost of suffering and death of other nations. I'm sure I'll have a bunch of people disagreeing with this but to those people I would tell them to try raising your consciousness. Try to have an open mind and think of things in a new way, not just the way that feels right.

Another issue is that Muslims identify with Islamic countries first. This is a big problem that needs to be addressed as well.
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ED209



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aren't there muslims in the British Army?
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recessiontime



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ED209 wrote:
Aren't there muslims in the British Army?


They aren't considered real Muslims by protesting Muslims. I talked to a Muslim recently that told me the 9/11 hijackers were not Muslims and that no Muslims are terrorists.

Sounds familiar to this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_True_Scotsman
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Summer Wine



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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They never considered that their peace is at the cost of suffering and death of other nations. I'm sure I'll have a bunch of people disagreeing with this but to those people I would tell them to try raising your consciousness. Try to have an open mind and think of things in a new way, not just the way that feels right.



Yes, you are right, some one will disagree.

I will say it in a few words and try to understand them.

"Don't be a fuckin wanker you shoddy little poncer". "The fact that a self absorbered little *beep* thinks he can say what he wants is an expression of so much that he so called hates", just makes him a double plonker".

In other words, to put it into words I understand you are a self absorbed wanker.

Edit (could be trolling, could be serious)
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ED209



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

recessiontime wrote:
ED209 wrote:
Aren't there muslims in the British Army?


They aren't considered real Muslims by protesting Muslims. I talked to a Muslim recently that told me the 9/11 hijackers were not Muslims and that no Muslims are terrorists.

Sounds familiar to this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_True_Scotsman


So it's possible these guys burning poppies aren't considered Muslims either.
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recessiontime



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ED209 wrote:
recessiontime wrote:
ED209 wrote:
Aren't there muslims in the British Army?


They aren't considered real Muslims by protesting Muslims. I talked to a Muslim recently that told me the 9/11 hijackers were not Muslims and that no Muslims are terrorists.

Sounds familiar to this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_True_Scotsman


So it's possible these guys burning poppies aren't considered Muslims either.


A simple rule of thumb is when a Muslim does something bad, they aren't true Muslims. Muslims don't commit crime. They don't have sex with 9 year old girls (except the prophet). And so on.
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comm



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not from the UK, but as far as I'm concerned they can go for it with the poppies. They can bring an American flag too if they want, and I'll buy a few books I don't like, and maybe we can find someone who really hates marshmallows and I'll give them a hand with those too.

Is this really a big deal?
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recessiontime



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

comm wrote:
I'm not from the UK, but as far as I'm concerned they can go for it with the poppies. They can bring an American flag too if they want, and I'll buy a few books I don't like, and maybe we can find someone who really hates marshmallows and I'll give them a hand with those too.

Is this really a big deal?


well I find it mildly amusing. I sure many UK people are outraged.
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Junior



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

recessiontime wrote:
They are basically approving of their soldiers going to war in Afghanistan or Iraq and they are sad that they have died.

They never considered that their peace is at the cost of suffering and death of other nations.


Oh puh-leazzzz. Rolling Eyes
That is such a ridiculous comment it hardly bears tackling, but your quota of stupidity is already full.
Allied troops are limiting the suffering of Afghanistan. Unless you'd prefer the rag eds to be stuffing females in burqas and stoning them.

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I'm sure I'll have a bunch of people disagreeing with this but


Thats what you exist for isn't it?
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travel zen



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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how do the conquered feel when the conquerors give approval of violence against them? Because that is exactly what the British are implying when they stand in silence. They are basically approving of their soldiers going to war in Afghanistan or Iraq and they are sad that they have died. They never considered that their peace is at the cost of suffering and death of other nations. I'm sure I'll have a bunch of people disagreeing with this but to those people I would tell them to try raising your consciousness. Try to have an open mind and think of things in a new way, not just the way that feels right.



He has a good point. These conquerers (USA,Brits, EU) dominate the world and they use words like 'liberate' and 'freedom' to mask their moves to dominate. This has been the rule for long eons.

So, see it from the underdogs side. See it from the Rebel Alliance point of view. C'mon, I know you can do it Very Happy
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comm



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

travel zen wrote:

So, see it from the underdogs side. See it from the Rebel Alliance point of view. C'mon, I know you can do it Very Happy


Right, because if the Empire removed the leadership of the Alliance, Luke Skywalker would immediately force Leia to wear a full body burka. Then he'd put on a suicide vest to blow up Han Solo and as many baby ewoks as possible, because they're from another sect of the same religion. I can see so clearly now, thank you...

Nothing here is what it seems. You are not the plucky hero, the United States is not an evil empire, and this is not the grand arena.
(also, that's not incense)
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travel zen



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, in Canada they teach us that America is the Great Satan! I could only believe.... Neutral
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NovaKart



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone can burn some flowers but what would really effectively show their outrage would be if they left Britain and settled in an Islamic country with like minded people.

Of course they wouldn't do that because then they would be living under a regime that doesn't give any respect to their rights.
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asylum seeker



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

travel zen wrote:
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how do the conquered feel when the conquerors give approval of violence against them? Because that is exactly what the British are implying when they stand in silence. They are basically approving of their soldiers going to war in Afghanistan or Iraq and they are sad that they have died. They never considered that their peace is at the cost of suffering and death of other nations. I'm sure I'll have a bunch of people disagreeing with this but to those people I would tell them to try raising your consciousness. Try to have an open mind and think of things in a new way, not just the way that feels right.



He has a good point. These conquerers (USA,Brits, EU) dominate the world and they use words like 'liberate' and 'freedom' to mask their moves to dominate. This has been the rule for long eons.

So, see it from the underdogs side. See it from the Rebel Alliance point of view. C'mon, I know you can do it Very Happy


So the Rebel Alliance stone women to death for adultery and let men off who murder their wives? I must have missed that part of Star Wars.
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