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thematrixiam



Joined: 31 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 5:58 pm    Post subject: Naturalization - Dual citizenship? Reply with quote

Not too sure if there is a post about this or not already... the search function for this site doesn't work the greatest

But here goes.

How hard is it to get korean citizenship?

about how long does it take?

Does having a child with your Korean spouse make things faster?

How much Korean does one need to know?

Can I leave the country after the fact? Or is there a mandatory amount of stay that one has to stay in Korea for after they get the citizenship - or during processing time?

Anyone hear anything about them canceling the JAN 1st 2011 immigration law that will allow people to get dual citizenship?
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T-J



Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae

PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have some people going through the process over on the AFEK forum, if you have an F visa pop on over.

http://www.afek.info
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decolyon



Joined: 24 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know some Chinese and South Asians have done this. But it's pretty complicated. They're not keen on letting someone call themselves Korean if they're not of "pure blood."

If you're a white person from any of the English speaking countries, I don't get why you'd want to do this. But you could enlighten me I guess.
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waseige1



Joined: 09 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 11:27 pm    Post subject: Yes Please... Reply with quote

decolyon wrote:
I know some Chinese and South Asians have done this. But it's pretty complicated. They're not keen on letting someone call themselves Korean if they're not of "pure blood."

If you're a white person from any of the English speaking countries, I don't get why you'd want to do this. But you could enlighten me I guess.


IRONY FOLLOWS....

Yes please enlighten us as to why any WHITE person from an English speaking country would be so stupid as to do this. Maybe if you are brown or black or something.

And because I don't follow why you might want to do this, please enlighten me. Your idea is surely stupid and MAYBE just MAYBE you can justify to me why any WHITE person might want to do this.

IRONY STOPS

Are you for real?

OP, please don't feel you have to enlighten me for ANY reason. Enjoy your life as you see fit. Good luck with your quest.
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Skippy



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Daejeon

PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do not think dual citizenship is possible. Some Kyopos get away with it but it comes with problems and needing a Korean family.

Of the two Waygooks who became Korean citizens that I know of - both had to renounce their citizenship. RENOUNCE - meaning if you marriage or future goes to hell in a hand-basket you can not go back home.

If I where you I would look in F-Series visas.
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Xylox



Joined: 09 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 3:48 am    Post subject: Re: Yes Please... Reply with quote

waseige1 wrote:
decolyon wrote:
I know some Chinese and South Asians have done this. But it's pretty complicated. They're not keen on letting someone call themselves Korean if they're not of "pure blood."

If you're a white person from any of the English speaking countries, I don't get why you'd want to do this. But you could enlighten me I guess.


IRONY FOLLOWS....

Yes please enlighten us as to why any WHITE person from an English speaking country would be so stupid as to do this. Maybe if you are brown or black or something.

And because I don't follow why you might want to do this, please enlighten me. Your idea is surely stupid and MAYBE just MAYBE you can justify to me why any WHITE person might want to do this.

IRONY STOPS

Are you for real?

OP, please don't feel you have to enlighten me for ANY reason. Enjoy your life as you see fit. Good luck with your quest.


This QQ train stopped in Crysville which is located in the Peoples Republic of Needtissues.
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thematrixiam



Joined: 31 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skippy wrote:
I do not think dual citizenship is possible. Some Kyopos get away with it but it comes with problems and needing a Korean family.

Of the two Waygooks who became Korean citizens that I know of - both had to renounce their citizenship. RENOUNCE - meaning if you marriage or future goes to hell in a hand-basket you can not go back home.

If I where you I would look in F-Series visas.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Korean_nationality_law
"A revised nationality law was passed on 21st April 2010 by the Korean National Assembly. It will go into effect on 1st January 2011 and gives a limited number of groups dual citizenship.[3]"


I already have F series.

... So, can anyone actually answer my questions? Or we just going to play 'who's the bigger troll'?
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alistaircandlin



Joined: 24 Sep 2004
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 3:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I remember reading that dual citizenship is now possible if you are have a Korean spouse, or if you have been a long term resident.

My personal reaction was: I might as well have it. It would certainly make things easier if we variously lived in Korea and the UK. I only wish my wife could get it too. It is not possible for Korean citizens at the moment, because of drafting as I understand it, but hopefully that will change after reunification. Wink

As soon as I'm eligible I will apply, circumstances permitting.
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Skippy



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Daejeon

PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really I was being trollish? Also why didn't you tell us you what you have looked up and done?

Well the law looks new you might get to be one of the lucky ones to be the first to try.

Some things I would think about is Military service and taxes in your home country?

Best advice is find a lawyer who specializes in Immigration law and not ask us mostly dimwits about korea law what to do?

Good Luck on the application.

Actually a thought thru Korea says Dual (for some countries) will be okay. What does you home country think. They might even ask you to choose?
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thematrixiam



Joined: 31 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 4:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skippy wrote:
Really I was being trollish? Also why didn't you tell us you what you have looked up and done?

Well the law looks new you might get to be one of the lucky ones to be the first to try.

Some things I would think about is Military service and taxes in your home country?

Best advice is find a lawyer who specializes in Immigration law and not ask us mostly dimwits about korea law what to do?

Good Luck on the application.

Actually a thought thru Korea says Dual (for some countries) will be okay. What does you home country think. They might even ask you to choose?


I wasn't meaning you were the one being trollish... the other guys were a bit though.

as per the telling you guys what I knew I thought when I said
thematrixiam wrote:
Anyone hear anything about them canceling the JAN 1st 2011 immigration law that will allow people to get dual citizenship?
it was implied. Guess not.

I was hoping maybe some people knew a little more about it. Or if they heard that they were going to cancel the change.

I want to know what I am up against when I go to get it.
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Skippy



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Daejeon

PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also remember you are dealing with Korean Immigration and that. I would be surprised if you got told sorry no go as they do not know the new rules.
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thematrixiam



Joined: 31 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skippy wrote:
Also remember you are dealing with Korean Immigration and that. I would be surprised if you got told sorry no go as they do not know the new rules.


I'll let you deal with the pessimism.

I've been lucky enough to have nothing but good things from my immigration office.
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T-J



Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae

PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This thread is a prime example of why I don't bother to post much of anything anymore. Also there is better than a 50/50 chance this thread will be deleted anyway. For those that are interested in getting real information from people that are actually going through this I'll repeat my offer�


T-J wrote:
We have some people going through the process over on the AFEK forum, if you have an F visa pop on over.

http://www.afek.info


To the rest I say troll on�
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thematrixiam



Joined: 31 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I already 'applied'

Not really a fan of giving unknown people my id number, name, and address though.
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IlIlNine



Joined: 15 Jun 2005
Location: Gunpo, Gyonggi, SoKo

PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 6:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are reasons someone may not want it if they already have an F-series visa.

- Taxes go up
- Can't send your kids to a foreign school
(I'm sure there are others)

Basically, by taking on Korean citizenship, you relinquish any advantages that come with being a foreigner in Korea (this is one of the stipulations of gaining citizenship), without gaining too much in the way of benefits over, say, the F5 visa.

Of course, everyone's case is different and there definitely are reasons why it may be a good idea (Korean government work, etc) - it's not as cut-and-dry as it might look at first glance.

Practically speaking, I don't think it's a big stretch to say that someone from a poorer country would have more incentive to immigrate here than someone from a richer country. I don't really see it as a racial issue, more like a socioeconomic one.
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