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Darkray16
Joined: 09 Nov 2008
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 8:34 pm Post subject: EPIK asking California residents to commit a crime? |
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I just noticed that in California it is illegal to give your criminal background check to anyone not authorized by the state of California:
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http://ag.ca.gov/fingerprints/security_faq.php
EPIK is asking for people to send in their state background checks while waiting for federal background checks, which is a misdemeanor crime in California. What are other CA residents doing? |
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thegadfly

Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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California Penal Code Section 11142 states:
"Any person authorized by law to receive a record or
information obtained from a record who knowingly furnishes the record
or information to a person who is not authorized by law to receive
the record or information is guilty of a misdemeanor."
The bold is mine -- it does not state that the agency needs to get Califonia's authorization, simply that the agency needs to have authorization by law....
California Penal Code Section 11144 states further:
(c) It is not a violation of this article to include information
obtained from a record in (1) a transcript or record of a judicial or
administrative proceeding or (2) any other public record when the
inclusion of the information in the public record is authorized by a
court, statute, or decisional law.
I would guess since the Korean government requires the criminal background checks (hence, the Korean courts and statutes authorize it), that it is NOT illegal to furnish the information.... |
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thegadfly

Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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Whoops -- double post.
Last edited by thegadfly on Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:50 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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weekapaughead
Joined: 29 Nov 2010
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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very interesting. Now you have to commit misdemeanors to even get a job in Korea. |
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Darkray16
Joined: 09 Nov 2008
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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I'm pretty sure it means American law. |
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thegadfly

Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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Pretty sure it isn't just American laws...and I showed you some relevant sections of the code...show me it IS just American laws, or just Californian laws.... |
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Darkray16
Joined: 09 Nov 2008
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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Nevermind. Someone on Reddit pointed out to me that a criminal records and a criminal background check are not the same thing, but providing the records would be illegal to a foreign government. |
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digby
Joined: 27 Oct 2010
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Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 11:41 am Post subject: |
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Yeah I think records implies your actual file from X branch of government. If you have a file. |
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Epik_Teacher
Joined: 28 Apr 2010
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Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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weekapaughead wrote: |
very interesting. Now you have to commit misdemeanors to even get a job in Korea. |
Many jobs in Korea ARE worse than misdemeanors! |
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nathanrutledge
Joined: 01 May 2008 Location: Marakesh
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Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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Gadfly, you missed section 11140 -
(b) "A person authorized by law to receive a record" means any
person or public agency authorized by a court, statute, or decisional
law to receive a record.
Because the Republic of Korea is a sovereign country that the US recognizes, their laws require a criminal check, they fall into that category. Thus, not a crime. |
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thegadfly

Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Nathan  |
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Los Angeloser
Joined: 26 Aug 2010 Location: Korea
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Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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You're authorized by law to receive it(upon your request) and if you choose to give it to someone then that's your prerogative. |
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