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sierradharma
Joined: 04 Dec 2010
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 Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 2:27 pm Post subject: Help |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 4:19 pm Post subject: Re: has anyone returned to Korea successfully after leaving |
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| sierradharma wrote: |
I have recently been hired at a university in the same province as where I used to teach a few years ago. My old job was a public school and I didnt necessarily leave on good terms because of some complications with my boss.
I am concerned about the Immigration Office if my this province receives my new visa application for my new university job. I doubt this seriously happens; however, I am concerned that my old job may have reported something to the Immigration Office. You read about so many rumours on dave's eslcafe about blacklists, being blocked for 5 years, and being reported to an immigration office.
I would really like to hear from someone who left their old job, did a midnight run, and came back to Korea to teach without any visa or immigration problems.
It was three years ago since I was last there, so Im hoping the time frame is long enough.
My old visa was not cancelled or revoked, and I left the country without any problems. My only concern is if there could be some negative record at the immigration office from my old job/visa, and if this could potentially impact my new visa application.
Please share any specific experiences you have. Thanks. |
Because you pulled a runner there are some "IFs".
1) IF you are American you must have canceled your visa on the way out (hand in your ARC and tell them that you are not returning.)
-IF you did then you CAN get a new visa and a new job.
-IF you did NOT then you will have to wait until your old visa expires.
2) IF you had a valid re-entry permit see above - same/same.
3) IF you are NOT American AND did not have a re-entry permit then the simple act of leaving and handing in your ARC will have canceled your visa - apply for a new job.
4) IF you left AFTER Dec. 1, 2010 you MUST have turned in your ARC and told the immigration officer at passport control that you were NOT returning to cancel your visa. See #1 above.
Bottom line = you MUST have handed in your ARC and canceled your visa before you can apply for a new job/visa.
There is NO immigration blacklist for quitting a job or pulling a runner.
There is NO 5-year (immigration/entry) ban unless you are charged, arrested and taken to court and convicted for a criminal offense then deported from Korea after the sentence is completed.
There can be/is (illegally under labor law) a hagwan blacklist for runners but it won't affect a visa application - just finding a job with other hagwans who are members of the hagwan association.
There are LOTS of people who have pulled runners and returned to Korea (often the same weekend) to begin a job again.
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earthquakez
Joined: 10 Nov 2010
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| Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 3:30 am Post subject: Sierradharma, how did you do it? |
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What I don't get is how you managed to be hired by a university (not a tacky dime a dozen hagwon) without having your references checked. If you left your public school on bad terms I am guessing you don't have a reference.
So how did you get past this barrier when interviewing for a university position? Looking at various ads for uni positions it's clear they're demanding everything to scrutinise including transcripts which aren't necessary and shouldn't be asked for under the new E-2 rules.
A few universities are demanding complete 'employment certificate' collections which in a way is absurd as I don't know anybody from my home country who's ever had to provide this kind of record. In the UK we do it by listing referees and there's plenty of other ways you can document your working history to prove you actually worked somewhere.
I'm intrigued by how you could finish your last job in that situation yet get hired by a Korean uni. That's not meant critically, that's meant positively because they and all K employers are getting a tad arrogant in their demands for their less than great paying jobs. Care to enlighten us?   |
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liveinkorea316
Joined: 20 Aug 2010
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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To answer Earthquakez question:
I got hired at a Uni and I did provide the references that most people have to but they never checked them. I know because I asked the references and they never heard a word. I am guess one main reason is that i had an MA which they didn't need to verify. But they never contacted my references or my current employer who were both expecting a call.
But I don't mind. It think it comes down to time pressure and my uni is not the top of the heap so they obviously wanted to get in early with an offer and I did mention that i had had other interviews so there was pressure. |
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