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Who's Your Daddy?
Joined: 30 May 2010 Location: Victoria, Canada.
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Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 6:33 pm Post subject: Korea's Extra-territorial laws |
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Rapper Crown-J is "charged with using marijuana outside the country."
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2929286
Shin Hye-sung, a member of the band Shinhwa, had to pay 10 million won in fines after he was caught gambling overseas
Entertainer Shin Jung-hwan, who gambled in the Philippines is being investigated by prosecutors, and will likely face "heavy punishment."
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2926077
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Seems strange to me. What about the dual passport holder that gambles legally in the U.S.? Was he an American at the time or Korean?
Anyway, this idea of whole world jurisdiction bothers me. |
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Mr. Pink

Joined: 21 Oct 2003 Location: China
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Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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Many countries have these laws. If you are Canadian and go abroad for sex tourism, you can be charged back in Canada.
I agree though: where the hell do countries get off charging you for something you did in another jurisdiction? Each day Government tries to take a little more of our liberties.
It should be up to the country where said criminal convicts the crime to punish them, not Canada. Also, in most countries, the punishment is WAY worse than what we do in Canada, so why does Canada bother wasting tax payer money on such stupid things? (Or Korea for that matter?) |
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UknowsI

Joined: 16 Apr 2009
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Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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How can gambling abroad be illegal when gambling in Kangwon is legal? If it was illegal for Koreans to gamble anywhere in the world, it would almost make sense, but "anywhere in the world except Kangwon"...
There are a few 'world laws' which I think is sensible, such as those to prevent child abuse.
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He was also sued by an acquaintance who said Shin failed to repay the 180 million won he borrowed to gamble at a casino in Gangwon Province.
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My home country has a law that makes it illegal to lend out money for gambling. I think it's a great law because it makes it much harder for people to build up gambling debt, and in this case it would be the suer's fault for lending Shin the money and he wouldn't have a case. The law does however make some practical problems. For example I can't pay for a dinner at a Las Vegas casino with my Visa/MasterCard. |
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Captain Corea

Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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I remember this blowing up two years back when a Korean guy blogged about puffing up in Amsterdam. oh, and this also came up when that K-chick did some porn in Vancouver and got busted here.
I understand the reasoning, just disagree with it. |
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jvalmer

Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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It's not the fact they gambled that got them into trouble, it's the huge sums of money they used to gamble. The taxman wants to know where they got that money from. |
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Who's Your Daddy?
Joined: 30 May 2010 Location: Victoria, Canada.
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Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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Captain Corea wrote: |
his also came up when that K-chick did some porn in Vancouver and got busted here. |
Porn too?
Wow, what bothers me is that it seems the Korean government sees Koreans as their "property" (not sure of a better word) wherever they live in the world. Like the U.S. doesn't have responsibility for Koreans in it's borders but rather the home government does.
It's like when they apologized for that campus shooting, when the shooter was an American citizen.
Do the Koreans have over-seas police? |
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jvalmer

Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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Who's Your Daddy? wrote: |
It's like when they apologized for that campus shooting, when the shooter was an American citizen. |
Actually, he wasn't an American citizen, just a permanent resident. He was still a Korean citizen, hence the apology. |
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interestedinhanguk

Joined: 23 Aug 2010
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Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 12:42 am Post subject: |
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jvalmer wrote: |
Actually, he wasn't an American citizen, just a permanent resident. He was still a Korean citizen, hence the apology. |
I don't think citizenship mattered in that apology. They apologized because he was Korean; you know that one is Korean (in regards to other Koreans) regardless of one's citizenship/residency etc. |
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interestedinhanguk

Joined: 23 Aug 2010
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Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 1:00 am Post subject: |
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Who's Your Daddy? wrote: |
Wow, what bothers me is that it seems the Korean government sees Koreans as their "property" (not sure of a better word) wherever they live in the world. Like the U.S. doesn't have responsibility for Koreans in it's borders but rather the home government does. |
The ROK constitution is interesting in that it refers to (rights of) "citizens" whereas the US constitution refers just to "the people" or "person" etc.
See:
ROK Constitution, Articles 10-39: http://english.ccourt.go.kr/home/att_file/download/Constitution_of_the_Republic_of_Korea.pdf
US Constitution, Bill of Rights: http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html |
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redaxe
Joined: 01 Dec 2008
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Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 7:29 am Post subject: |
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Captain Corea wrote: |
I remember this blowing up two years back when a Korean guy blogged about puffing up in Amsterdam. oh, and this also came up when that K-chick did some porn in Vancouver and got busted here.
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Almond Tease, she came back to Korea to teach English and one of her students recognized her from the internet, lol |
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Louis VI
Joined: 05 Jul 2010 Location: In my Kingdom
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Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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Back in the eighties I'd heard that Swedes are held to their laws worldwide. I didn't realize Koreans were too. |
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Junior

Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Location: the eye
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Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:55 am Post subject: |
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Korea's Extra-terrestrial laws |
Rule 1: You may not phone home. |
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Junior

Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Location: the eye
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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Junior wrote: |
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Korea's Extra-terrestrial laws |
Rule 1: You may not phone home. |
Does no-one get it?
E.T PHONE HOME
E.T.= Extra terrestrial.
Its a joke.
For pity's sakes this forum is slow these days!!!!!  |
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diver
Joined: 16 Jun 2003
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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interestedinhanguk wrote: |
Who's Your Daddy? wrote: |
Wow, what bothers me is that it seems the Korean government sees Koreans as their "property" (not sure of a better word) wherever they live in the world. Like the U.S. doesn't have responsibility for Koreans in it's borders but rather the home government does. |
The ROK constitution is interesting in that it refers to (rights of) "citizens" whereas the US constitution refers just to "the people" or "person" etc.
See:
ROK Constitution, Articles 10-39: http://english.ccourt.go.kr/home/att_file/download/Constitution_of_the_Republic_of_Korea.pdf
US Constitution, Bill of Rights: http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html |
I know one poster who won't like you bringing that up... |
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