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First Timer Contract for Kid's College

 
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Laerasyn



Joined: 01 Dec 2010
Location: Ohio

PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 4:25 pm    Post subject: First Timer Contract for Kid's College Reply with quote

Hey everyone... I'm really, really new at this, and have no idea what I'm doing, so please bear with me. I just got offered a contract for Kid's College in Suwon. It's really alarming the amount of bad things I've been hearing about Kid's College in general, but I haven't found really anything about the one in Suwon, Yeongdong.

Does anyone have any info on this school? Or on the area? Is there anything interesting to do there? I'm really lost as to what to do. They're not giving me too much time to think about it. I've been thinking about looking at public schools as well, but as I understand it, that would most likely mean less money, right? I have college loans, so that's a big thing or me. And it also would mean that I'd probably be the only foreign teacher there, right? For someone as new at this as I am... I don't know if that's a good idea.

I'm just looking for some advice here, if anyone doesn't mind. I don't want to pass this up and then not be able to get anything else. I guess it's kind of a matter of not knowing what I'm worth... and whether I have enough time for more opportunities. I have a TEFL certificate, experience living abroad, and a decent chunk of volunteer teaching experience over the years- does that make a difference? Any opinions would be appreciated!
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digby



Joined: 27 Oct 2010

PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No info on the school but just some other stuff. The difference monetarily between public and private isn't so huge that it will kill you, I think EPIK/GEPIK entry level is 2.1m KRW. With a hagwon you can get 2.3-2.8 generally? Maybe more if you are lucky. And there are different payoffs. More time off at public schools for one.

But the deadline for the March public school thing just passed I believe. If you don't want to wait for more info just do a search. This site is filled with info. Especially for when it comes to locale, everyone has an opinion.

Things people have told me since I started this process. Don't just grab the first contract you get offered. Get as many as you can until you get something you like. There are lots of schools. And if you have any doubts about your contract or don't understand it post it in the contract review thread.
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amnsg2



Joined: 15 Aug 2010
Location: Gumi

PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 8:25 pm    Post subject: Re: First Timer Contract for Kid's College Reply with quote

Laerasyn wrote:
They're not giving me too much time to think about it.


But you're the one moving all the way across the world, you need all the information. Just keep asking questions, and if you don't get answers ask them in a slightly rephrased way. Are they paying for your flight upfront? If you're the one taking all the risk and you're not sure then pass it up.

(I'm the only foreign teacher in a small school and I'm just off the boat, but it's actually nice.)
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Laerasyn



Joined: 01 Dec 2010
Location: Ohio

PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, the contract says that they are only paying for my return airfare. Which is different than what the recruiter said; he has yet to e-mail be back on that.

I will definitely post my contract in the review thread, thanks for pointing that out. Smile

@amnsg2: Just out of curiosity, what exactly do you like about being the only foreign teacher at your school? Do you find the other teachers to be pretty helpful?
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InDaGu



Joined: 28 Jun 2010
Location: Cebu City, Philippines

PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When they say "return airfare," they are talking about what we usually refer to as "round-trip," so you should be good. But it would definitely be worth finding out.
And it's always good to get another Buckeye in Korea. Whereabouts in Ohio are you from?
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 5:34 pm    Post subject: Re: First Timer Contract for Kid's College Reply with quote

Laerasyn wrote:
Hey everyone... I'm really, really new at this, and have no idea what I'm doing, so please bear with me. I just got offered a contract for Kid's College in Suwon. It's really alarming the amount of bad things I've been hearing about Kid's College in general, but I haven't found really anything about the one in Suwon, Yeongdong.

Does anyone have any info on this school? Or on the area? Is there anything interesting to do there? I'm really lost as to what to do. They're not giving me too much time to think about it. I've been thinking about looking at public schools as well, but as I understand it, that would most likely mean less money, right? I have college loans, so that's a big thing or me. And it also would mean that I'd probably be the only foreign teacher there, right? For someone as new at this as I am... I don't know if that's a good idea.

I'm just looking for some advice here, if anyone doesn't mind. I don't want to pass this up and then not be able to get anything else. I guess it's kind of a matter of not knowing what I'm worth... and whether I have enough time for more opportunities. I have a TEFL certificate, experience living abroad, and a decent chunk of volunteer teaching experience over the years- does that make a difference? Any opinions would be appreciated!


Typical newbie mistake.

They look at the base salary and think that is all there is to it. You're not working at McD's anymore.

A PS job MAY appear to pay less initially BUT when you look at the whole package it becomes a far different picture.

Hakwon = salary of 2.2-2.4 million won, 10 days vacation, airfare and housing. You probably WON'T get medical (for sure you won't at the kids college in Yongtong, Suwon), probably won't get pension and won't get any overtime. You WILL work your full 120 hours of class time every month for your money (either 30 classes of 50 minutes or 45 classes of 40 minutes) and you will usually spend 35-50 hours per week at the hagwan.

In a PS position you are at the school for 40 hours per week, are scheduled for 22 classes (and you DO get paid extra for anything over 22 classes per week). You get between 4-6 WEEKS of paid vacation + medical, pension, housing and airfare.

MOST PS positions have the option of adding up to 6 extra classes per week (putting you at 28 classes of 40 minutes) and the extra 500k won per month is your reward for it.

bottom line = the whole package at a PS is almost ALWAYS better than any hakwan.

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morrisonhotel



Joined: 18 Jul 2009
Location: Gyeonggi-do

PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I reviewed the contract in the contract sticky. Bottom line - I wouldn't sign it as it. Just one delightful clause includes a reduction in your severance between 30 - 50% if you have to take unexpected leave (i.e. family death) + unpaid prep time = no go for me. You could try negotiating, but I personally wouldn't bother with this contract.
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Milwaukiedave



Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong

PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know about that particular Kid's College, but I worked for one in Seoul and it was one of the worst places one could land. Stay away.....
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