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Do you put your degree on your resume/CV?
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Stalin84



Joined: 30 Dec 2009
Location: Haebangchon, Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 10:08 pm    Post subject: Do you put your degree on your resume/CV? Reply with quote

I'm back home now and heading back to Korea soon. My actual start date in Korea keeps flaking around because of documents/rushes/embassy crap and what have you so I'm still a bit up in the air about whether or not I'll be returning and when.

The idea of staying in Canada and working enters my head now and then because I think that I might be ready for it. I definitely want to do at least one more year in Korea but it's looking more and more like a short term gig and less and less like a long term gig, these days.

Anyway, I tested the waters this week and took my resume to the local employment centre in my home town and in the closest city. I mainly just wanted advice and since it's a free service it couldn't hurt (just sitting on my hands now and doing nothing anyway).

Every employment centre I spoke to told me to take my BA off my resume. They said it would do nothing but over-qualify me for most of the work I could do and since I don't have a particular field per se, there is really no reason to have it on there. Apparently, the only places that would hire someone with a Bachelor's degree are places that need warm bodies of any variety. The places that I'd be better suited are instead asking for 5+ years experience doing similar work (which I can't get because they're all saying that and where would one begin...)

I don't think I can bring myself to just taking it off my resume. If I took my degree off, I'd have to take my Korea/Japan teaching experience off too which makes it look like I've been doing nothing since I was 18 other than odd part time jobs. That and despite it being worthless, I do feel like it helped me become a better person which indirectly makes me more employable.

Do you put your degree on your resume? Why/why not?
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Poker



Joined: 16 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really now, that just sounds silly, a BA makes one over-qualified? Jeez. What kind of work are those employment centres finding for people? Shocked
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morrisonhotel



Joined: 18 Jul 2009
Location: Gyeonggi-do

PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course. I'm applying for jobs that have interviews in the week I'm home over Christmas. Every job I've applied for has asked for an advanced degree in a related subject. My degree isn't related so I've just had to put a positive spin on it in my cover letter. So far, it has worked out okay - I've so far applied for 6 jobs. I have 4 interviews lined up. Unless you're going for cleaning jobs or whatever, I don't really see the necessity of leaving it off. Just make sure you put a positive spin on it in your cover letter.
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Cerulean



Joined: 19 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't understand why you have to take off Korea and Japan if you take off your degree.

Please explain if you don't mind.

And I'm not being sarcastic.
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Cedar



Joined: 11 Mar 2003
Location: In front of my computer, again.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 4:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone who tells you to take a BA off your resume is either mentally deficient in a major way or you are applying for ditch-digger positions. Seriously, I guess I might take off my degree if I wanted to get the ditch-digger position, but otherwise why spend the time and energy to get it and NOT put it on your resume? (and I'm nearly 40 so I've had more time on the job market to test these waters for myself)
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Provence



Joined: 18 Oct 2008
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 4:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don�t work with those employment agencies, they obviously want to place you in jobs with minimal requirements. Remember they only get paid if you get paid and will place you anywhere they can as fast as they can.
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mises



Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired

PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 7:33 am    Post subject: Re: Do you put your degree on your resume/CV? Reply with quote

Stalin84 wrote:

Every employment centre I spoke to told me to take my BA off my resume. They said it would do nothing but over-qualify me for most of the work I could do and since I don't have a particular field per se, there is really no reason to have it on there. Apparently, the only places that would hire someone with a Bachelor's degree are places that need warm bodies of any variety.


If you are applying for manual labour work, you're best to take it off.
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Died By Bear



Joined: 13 Jul 2010
Location: On the big lake they call Gitche Gumee

PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trust me, they are right. Just take it off and say you worked as a peace corps volunteer in Korea. Lie a little, everyone else does it. It's not like you're going to list these temp jobs on your resume in the future, it's a filler position right?
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Stalin84



Joined: 30 Dec 2009
Location: Haebangchon, Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cerulean wrote:
I don't understand why you have to take off Korea and Japan if you take off your degree.

Please explain if you don't mind.


Because the jobs I had in both countries required a degree...
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Tundra_Creature



Joined: 11 Jun 2009
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you looking at jobs that don't require a degree?? Because other than that, I don't really see why you would be asked to take your degree off your resume. Even then.
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Stalin84



Joined: 30 Dec 2009
Location: Haebangchon, Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tundra_Creature wrote:
Are you looking at jobs that don't require a degree?? Because other than that, I don't really see why you would be asked to take your degree off your resume. Even then.


I went and told them what I was interested in, what I was willing to do and I said that I would like to work somewhere where my degree was seen as a boon and not a hindrance. The vibe I got was that there were no jobs out there that saw having a BA as a plus unless it was supplemented by graduate work or extremely specialized (which a BA is not).

I've looked at jobs online too but employment centres usually have connections and can see companies that are hiring which might not advertise or be hiring at the very moment.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stalin84 wrote:
Cerulean wrote:
I don't understand why you have to take off Korea and Japan if you take off your degree.

Please explain if you don't mind.


Because the jobs I had in both countries required a degree...


Yes but odds are the person behind the desk isn't going to know that.
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curlygirl



Joined: 26 Mar 2007
Location: Pundang, Seohyeon dong

PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Provence wrote:
Don�t work with those employment agencies, they obviously want to place you in jobs with minimal requirements. Remember they only get paid if you get paid and will place you anywhere they can as fast as they can.


^^ This.

However, if you're not fussed right now about what type of work you do and just want to make a few $$ then I'd agree that taking your degree off is the best way to go.

Why? Because a lot of employers, rightfully or otherwise, will see that you have a higher education and say to themselves "This applicant is probably going to think he is better than our non-degree holding workers and may view this job as being beneath him. Also he'll most likely be looking for something better and will jump ship as soon as that better job appears. I'd better hire someone less ambitious who will stick around and be grateful that they're in paid employment."
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AsiaESLbound



Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Location: Truck Stop Missouri

PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had the same problem in America. I was over qualified for most jobs, but under qualified for professional jobs due to lacking at least 5 years recent experience in a specialized role. A smart educated skilled man can easily go broke in the economy of the 2000's.


If applying to deliver pizza, you might say you attend school. If applying to be a cook, leave the degree off. If applying to be in a business oriented job like sales and computer work, include your degree even it only pays $9 an hour and most other in there don't have a bachelors. The low paying business oriented job seems to be the only place where a degree gives you a leg up against the competition in this economy. Unfortunately, accounting and sales wearing a suit is only paying $9 to $12 an hour with little to no bonuses these days. Other jobs are commission only and about as possible as you winning the Powerball when it comes to getting paid enough to minimally live even if you can sell.
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lawyertood



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul, Incheon and the World--working undercover for the MOJ

PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you really need a resume to apply for a job delivering pizza?
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