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My wife wants to throw her iPhone 4 off the Incheon bridge..
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teachal



Joined: 24 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 5:20 pm    Post subject: My wife wants to throw her iPhone 4 off the Incheon bridge.. Reply with quote

As a matter of fact, she bellowed in perfect English, 'Throw this @$% thing off the bridge!
For those of you sitting on the fence between iPhone and Galaxy S read on:

She's got the iPhone, I've got the Android so comparisons can be made readily.

She hates the following:
1. It auto updated without her knowledge so the jailbreak broke.
2. She has to pay for all the good apps, which are free for Galaxy, e.g., Vlingo, Tune in Radio, Qik video, etc.
3. We only have a Korean credit card so we're locked into the Korean iTunes only.
4. The CC company charges an extra dollar every time we buy an app.
5. I whip out another battery and continue while she has to constantly be 'tethered' to the battery charger.
6. Once the update has been completed to the new iOS (4. something), none of her apps from Cydia work right.
7. She likes by bigger screen better.
8. And the straw, the real straw for her was her most favorite app in the whole world ceased to exist in her life: LUCKY 7 SLOTS. Lol...so funny.
Even tried rolling back the OS with no luck.
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Chokse



Joined: 22 May 2009

PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. Isn't this to be expected? Read the user agreement. Nowhere does it say you are going to have a streamlined experience if you Jailbreak your phone. You're not supposed to Jailbreak it and if you do, you live with the consequences. Don't whine about it.

2. How long do you think the "good" apps will stay free on Android. Already, there are many developers who refuse to make apps for the Android platform because there is no money in it. Too many apps are stolen and pirated on torrent sites. My guess is that in the next year or two, Android apps will go full price, or will come with advertising built in. Developers need to make money to keep producing the apps. Your woman is living in some kind of Korean fantasy world if she thinks she'll get good apps for free.

3. So get another credit card or buy an iTunes gift card from Auction, or have a friend buy one and mail it to you. What's the big deal?

4. Stop using a Korean credit card. You should be smart enough to figure this out. You are getting charged for an overseas purchase. Either get a US credit card or buy an iTunes gift card. Heck, you can even give money to an American friend and let them buy a gift card for you. Again, what's the big deal here? You are living in a foreign country. There are certain hoops you are just going to have to jump through. If that's too much, pack your bags and move back home.

5. Can't argue this, but I have never depleted the battery in a day, and I am on my iPhone any time I'm not working. She must spend more time screwing with her phone than she spends actually working.

6. See the answer to #1.

7. Get an iPhone 4. it has a bigger screen resolution than your Galaxy does

8. Apps don't disappear. It is still on her computer somewhere, unless she deleted it. It might no longer be compatible with the new iOS 4, but it is still there. If it is not compatible with the new OS, that is the developer's fault and she should contact the app's developer.

Oh. If she does decide to throw it off a bridge, let me know the time and the place and I'll be waiting below to catch it. Always good to have a back up phone.


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Drew10



Joined: 31 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

#7 is wrong. The Galaxy S has a bigger screen than the iPhone 4.

Edited.

Statement retracted. My reading comprehension is failing today.
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Chokse



Joined: 22 May 2009

PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Read it again. I didn't say the iPhone has a bigger screen. I said it has a bigger screen RESOLUTION, which it does. Check online if you doubt it.

Posted the above as you retracted.

No doubt the Galaxy has the bigger screen, but not a bigger resolution. For some, one is more important than the other. I prefer the bigger resolution for sharper detail.
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Galaxy S is a better phone for Koreans.

Mainly because Koreans do not have access to the full AppStore that Americans/Canadians do. Also, the Galaxy S has features that are common to Korean habits (like carrying an extra battery). The DMB is also something that Koreans would use a lot.


That's my take on it.
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tatertot



Joined: 21 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 12:23 am    Post subject: Re: My wife wants to throw her iPhone 4 off the Incheon brid Reply with quote

teachal wrote:
She hates the following:
1. It auto updated without her knowledge so the jailbreak broke.

Perhaps it auto-updated without her knowledge, but it didn't update without her consent. Unfortunately, that means at least some of the problem is user error.

The rest of your complaints are legitimate, but they still sound kind of whiny. When you are going to be spending 2,000,000+ won on something (including the 2-year contract, it will exceed 2 million won), you should make certain that the product suits your needs.

Anyway, if she really hates the phone, you should try to sell it. You should be able to get a pretty good price for it if you put it on Dave's or Craigslist. Good luck.
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languistic



Joined: 25 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chokse wrote:
1. Isn't this to be expected? Read the user agreement. Nowhere does it say you are going to have a streamlined experience if you Jailbreak your phone. You're not supposed to Jailbreak it and if you do, you live with the consequences. Don't whine about it.

2. How long do you think the "good" apps will stay free on Android. Already, there are many developers who refuse to make apps for the Android platform because there is no money in it. Too many apps are stolen and pirated on torrent sites. My guess is that in the next year or two, Android apps will go full price, or will come with advertising built in. Developers need to make money to keep producing the apps. Your woman is living in some kind of Korean fantasy world if she thinks she'll get good apps for free.

3. So get another credit card or buy an iTunes gift card from Auction, or have a friend buy one and mail it to you. What's the big deal?

4. Stop using a Korean credit card. You should be smart enough to figure this out. You are getting charged for an overseas purchase. Either get a US credit card or buy an iTunes gift card. Heck, you can even give money to an American friend and let them buy a gift card for you. Again, what's the big deal here? You are living in a foreign country. There are certain hoops you are just going to have to jump through. If that's too much, pack your bags and move back home.

5. Can't argue this, but I have never depleted the battery in a day, and I am on my iPhone any time I'm not working. She must spend more time screwing with her phone than she spends actually working.

6. See the answer to #1.

7. Get an iPhone 4. it has a bigger screen resolution than your Galaxy does

8. Apps don't disappear. It is still on her computer somewhere, unless she deleted it. It might no longer be compatible with the new iOS 4, but it is still there. If it is not compatible with the new OS, that is the developer's fault and she should contact the app's developer.

Oh. If she does decide to throw it off a bridge, let me know the time and the place and I'll be waiting below to catch it. Always good to have a back up phone.



Here we go. The disciples come out wailing as if Apple pays them, and all to defend their precious.

Just let someone hate the thing, would ya?
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red_devil



Joined: 30 Jun 2008
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then hate it and don't make stupid posts ranting about it online.
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IlIlNine



Joined: 15 Jun 2005
Location: Gunpo, Gyonggi, SoKo

PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

red_devil wrote:
Then hate it and don't make stupid posts ranting about it online.


Isn't that what people do here?

Wasn't your post really just hating on the hating?

I nominate this as the most ironic post on Dave's ever.
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 6:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IlIlNine wrote:
red_devil wrote:
Then hate it and don't make stupid posts ranting about it online.


Isn't that what people do here?

Wasn't your post really just hating on the hating?

I nominate this as the most ironic post on Dave's ever.


Agreed.

If there's one useful function that this slightly sad forum provides it's to verbalize what we hate......nothing wrong with that.

Why have a discussion forum otherwise? To only say positive things!!?? Laughing Laughing

That would be inane beyond belief.
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NYC_Gal 2.0



Joined: 10 Dec 2010

PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm usually an apple fangirl, but I'm much more impressed with my Galaxy than the iphone.

My only gripes are that there isn't a YBM English>Korean>English dictionary (by far the best one I've used, and which I've got on my ipad) and that the Skype app is crappy compared to the apple version.

I love having an extra battery. I usually go through only one a day, but it's nice to have a spare.
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Chokse



Joined: 22 May 2009

PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was not so much a defense of the iPhone as it was a criticism of his girlfriend acting like a spoiled, 5-year-old child who doesn't like her new toy because it doesn't do things exactly the way she wants it to.

Oh wait, she's a Korean girl. Never mind. She can't help but act this way.
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Kheldar



Joined: 26 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In case you haven't seen it, the official Android vs iPhone debate:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL7yD-0pqZg&feature=related
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smogdonkey



Joined: 19 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hilarious video.

I was just going to mention, my gf's Galaxy S is solid with 2.2, but the HTC Sense UI on any of the new generation phones, with the Snapdragon processor, really makes Android fly.

If you don't have an HTC phone, download the trial for Launcher Pro from the market. Within an hour, you'll love your phone so much more, you'll buy the full version to get access to the admitted HTC knock-off widgets with full support. When I had the droid 1, that sped up my home screen response 10-fold, and the widgets were fantastic. Now with the Droid Incredible, I don't really need the program, with the Sense UI, though since it's paid for, I might just use it if I feel like customizing even more...

On the topic of Apps, so many of the Android Apps are free because of the easily implemented (ignorable) advertising, and most of them have a pay option if you'd like to remove the ads. Of course, you can always download most of them from torrent sites if you wish, but most people can afford the $3 for the functionality they get addicted to with the free, fully-functional ad-based versions. So you can try your cake, and then eat it too... with or without ads.

Basically, the iphone comes out with a new version so rarely that by the time one gets to Korea it's a few months behind the Android curve. The only thing that bugs me about the Galaxy S is the UI (stock Android is so much smoother), which was easily undone with Launcher Pro (think of it as a replacement, fully stable, customizable home screen).

The other thing that sucks for Koreans about Android (last time I was in the country, at least) was that the games weren't in the market because of Google telling the Korean Game Rating system to go to Helsinki, after demanding ratings for each of the thousands of games. Easily found for free on aforementioned torrent sites, but a pain in the ass nonetheless.
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crossmr



Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. No it didn't.
2. this may very well be
3. any free apps not available on the Korean itunes store can be had. For pay apps, you'll have to figure something out, like getting a disposable credit card or getting itunes gift cards
4. That's an issue with your CC company I'd have a serious talk with them
5. I've got a spare battery for my iphone. This is good for 2x more battery life.
6. Follow the jailbreak update. Of course updating to the official firmware is going to break apps that only work with a jailbroken phone.
7. sure, but the phone is also bigger, and it's not hugely bigger
8. as long as you have an app backed up, it never goes away, unless it only runs online on servers

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YBM English>Korean>English dictionary

It's apparently there somewhere. In another thread someone mentioned it was on a store somewhere..maybe in the SK store or something?

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Here we go. The disciples come out wailing as if Apple pays them, and all to defend their precious.

Just let someone hate the thing, would ya?

Someone doesn't have to be a disciple to point out someone is full of it. Someone wants to hate something, that's fine, someone wants to then lay out why they hate it on a public forum, people are free to comment on it. don't want others to comment on what you write, lock yourself in a basement and disconnect yourself from the internet
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