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bbud656
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 Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 5:29 pm Post subject: Winter camps for after school programs question. |
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Does anyone know if public school teachers get paid extra for winter camps?
My teaching hours are going to skyrocket to about 40 a week because I don't desk warm, I teach after school class about 22 hours a week all winter. I know camps are a special thing, but it says nothing about it in my contract other than I get paid extra for anything over 22 hours of teaching. Just want to get some details so I don't look foolish bringing it up to my supervisor. Thanks. |
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Vagabundo
Joined: 26 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 5:01 am Post subject: Re: Winter camps for after school programs question. |
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| bbud656 wrote: |
Does anyone know if public school teachers get paid extra for winter camps?
My teaching hours are going to skyrocket to about 40 a week because I don't desk warm, I teach after school class about 22 hours a week all winter. I know camps are a special thing, but it says nothing about it in my contract other than I get paid extra for anything over 22 hours of teaching. Just want to get some details so I don't look foolish bringing it up to my supervisor. Thanks. |
no, typically PS these days do not get paid extra for camp, because camp is during usual school hours., ergo you are ALREADY being paid.
your case is interesting because your extra time is OUTSIDE of school hours, ergo technically subject to overtime pay.
btw.. how are your hours going up to 40 a week if you're not deskwarming?
anyways, technically speaking they should be paying you for any teaching after 4:30 pm, regardless of what happens before 4:30 pm.
(if you're teaching over 22, then regardless of time/(when) they should be paying you)
of course if you press the issue they'll probably have you deskwarm.
Yet I am confused. 22 hours of after school a week? so you teach between 4 and 8 pm every day or so? |
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lifeinkorea
Joined: 24 Jan 2009
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| Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 5:08 am Post subject: |
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| My teaching hours are going to skyrocket to about 40 a week |
No they won't. It will be treated the same. Any extra hours will be overtime, and the school will make sure it's not more than 25. |
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DeLaRed
Joined: 16 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 6:01 am Post subject: Re: Winter camps for after school programs question. |
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| Vagabundo wrote: |
| bbud656 wrote: |
Does anyone know if public school teachers get paid extra for winter camps?
My teaching hours are going to skyrocket to about 40 a week because I don't desk warm, I teach after school class about 22 hours a week all winter. I know camps are a special thing, but it says nothing about it in my contract other than I get paid extra for anything over 22 hours of teaching. Just want to get some details so I don't look foolish bringing it up to my supervisor. Thanks. |
Yet I am confused. 22 hours of after school a week? so you teach between 4 and 8 pm every day or so? |
I don`t think he works for a regular public school program like SMOE/EPIK etc....it`s the afterschool gig (1-5pm) |
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lifeinkorea
Joined: 24 Jan 2009
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| Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 7:06 am Post subject: Re: Winter camps for after school programs question. |
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| it`s the afterschool gig (1-5pm) |
1-5? eenie, meenie, mynie, mo!!
Mo, Tu, We, Th, Fr, that spells 20.
Where do you get 40? |
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bbud656
Joined: 15 Jun 2010
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| Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 9:35 am Post subject: |
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| Its a public after school program. School ends at around 1pm here. My regular schedule is pretty close to 1-5 now. 22 hours of teaching a week, 40 total. There is not break during the winter minus my couple weeks for vacation. So I don't desk warm at all. The camp is going to be during my normal prep hours. 9-1 so Ill be teaching for nearly 40 hours for at least 2 straight weeks. |
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Vagabundo
Joined: 26 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Its a public after school program. School ends at around 1pm here. My regular schedule is pretty close to 1-5 now. 22 hours of teaching a week, 40 total. There is not break during the winter minus my couple weeks for vacation. So I don't desk warm at all. The camp is going to be during my normal prep hours. 9-1 so Ill be teaching for nearly 40 hours for at least 2 straight weeks. |
not sure what the rules are for after school programs. Often they're not run by the public schools themselves, but subcontracted to the people who probably hired you. Not sure if the standard PS contract applies to you or not. If you work for the school directly, then probably yes, If not and you're a subcontractor, I wouldn't bet on it. |
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lifeinkorea
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| Its a public after school program. |
If you are really that concerned, talk to your co-teacher (but head English teacher would be better). If you were hired through an organization managing you, then talk to the manager who hired you or the person running around doing all the contacting with teachers. The manager will call you after you tell them the following, "I understand winter camps are coming. How many total hours am I expected to teach?". After that, ask what the overtime rate is if you work a 23rd class. If they go nuts, politely tell them the rules.
If you do nothing and just wait to be told, they will take advantage of you. Two hours or 20 hours, it doesn't matter. You should be paid more for more teaching hours beyond 22 hours. |
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