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Hatcher
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 11:53 pm Post subject: Guarantor for Canadian passport? Banker? |
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You have a banker sign as a guarantor. My friend is an asset manager at KDB and is willing to sign. Is it possible? |
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OculisOrbis

Joined: 17 Jul 2006
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 1:12 am Post subject: Re: Guarantor for Canadian passport? Banker? |
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You have a banker sign as a guarantor. My friend is an asset manager at KDB and is willing to sign. Is it possible? |
Save yourself a ton of hassle. Pay the fee and use the declaration in lieu of guarantor (5 man won).
You need 4 references who are not related to you (2 for the application and 2 for the declaration).
If the hag behind the glass says you can't then simply tell her she is full of crap and call her boss.
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superNET
Joined: 08 Dec 2010
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Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 1:14 am Post subject: |
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A guarantor can be Korean as I used a Korean dentist. The banker has to be a signing officer or a supervisor. Now unless they changed the rules in the past year as I just renewed last year.
TTompatz--I was highly encouraged by the Canadian Embassy through multiple e-mails to find a guarantor instead of using the 'in lieu of guarantor' form |
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Stan Rogers
Joined: 20 Aug 2010
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Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 8:54 am Post subject: Re: Guarantor for Canadian passport? Banker? |
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ttompatz wrote: |
Hatcher wrote: |
You have a banker sign as a guarantor. My friend is an asset manager at KDB and is willing to sign. Is it possible? |
Save yourself a ton of hassle. Pay the fee and use the declaration in lieu of guarantor (5 man won).
You need 4 references who are not related to you (2 for the application and 2 for the declaration).
If the hag behind the glass says you can't then simply tell her she is full of crap and call her boss.
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I heard (2nd hand information) that all this pressure to find a guarantor is because of the Russian spy ring that was busted in the US earlier this year. All the Russian spies had Canadian passports and all would fill out that declaration in lieu of guarantor form. The Russian spies all referenced each other. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: Retired
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Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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ttompatz wrote: |
[q The staff at the Canadian embassy in Korea are some of the worst in the world and I am convinced they are in a race to the bottom with someone.
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And they are a strong contender for 1st place. |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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My complaints go back a long way, and had nothing to do with my attitude.
2 passport renewals that should have been simple and were nothing but a hassle,
1 daughter registration (birth abroad) that they managed to screw up (how do you lose a photo between the hole in the window and the desk?)
and 1 visa application for my wife where they managed to damage her passport by prying off the photo from the front page necessitating a passport replacement for her.
If you have had good luck with them, then it is your good fortune. You are in the minority.
Good fortune or not it is still YOUR RIGHT to have a declaration in lieu in place of a guarantor. IT is NOT THEIR PLACE to suggest one or the other (another case where someone in the consular office has OVERSTEPPED their bounds.
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Captain Corea

Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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I recently renewed without a guarantor. They sent me away to get one, I came back with a list of 10 people, in Korea and Canada, that would vouch for me but were not doctors or police officers.
I agree with Tom though... The people at the embassy are generally NOT considerate in regards to their level of clarity in communication. |
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cheolsu
Joined: 16 Jan 2009
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Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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I renewed my passport last month. I called and said that it was impossible for me to come during their official three hours in the morning, so I would need an appointment. She refused twice until I said, "well, what do you want me to do? Your website plainly says you take appointments."
Then she made fun of my name and told me to be there at 3:30. When I said I probably wouldn't there before 4 (the site says they take appointments from 1:30 to 4:30), she said she'd see me at 3:30.
In the event, I got there at 3:50. She berated me for it in a fruitless rage ("Next time, be on time!"), belaboured every small point on the form, and ended things with a "that's all" instead of a "thanks" or "goodbye". |
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superNET
Joined: 08 Dec 2010
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Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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My complaints go back a long way, and had nothing to do with my attitude.
2 passport renewals that should have been simple and were nothing but a hassle,
1 daughter registration (birth abroad) that they managed to screw up (how do you lose a photo between the hole in the window and the desk?)
and 1 visa application for my wife where they managed to damage her passport by prying off the photo from the front page necessitating a passport replacement for her.
If you have had good luck with them, then it is your good fortune. You are in the minority.
Good fortune or not it is still YOUR RIGHT to have a declaration in lieu in place of a guarantor. IT is NOT THEIR PLACE to suggest one or the other (another case where someone in the consular office has OVERSTEPPED their bounds.
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I guess you forget the word--- forgive.
Sometimes it is better to do that than to hold a grudge.
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I agree with Tom though... The people at the embassy are generally NOT considerate in regards to their level of clarity in communication |
Then I guess there are some real benefits to being a Christian. I pray ad make sure my attitude is correct and God allows things to go well. I have dealt with the Embassy for years and do try to avoid it but basically each time I have not had a problem. |
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superNET
Joined: 08 Dec 2010
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Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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superNET wrote: |
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My complaints go back a long way, and had nothing to do with my attitude.
2 passport renewals that should have been simple and were nothing but a hassle,
1 daughter registration (birth abroad) that they managed to screw up (how do you lose a photo between the hole in the window and the desk?)
and 1 visa application for my wife where they managed to damage her passport by prying off the photo from the front page necessitating a passport replacement for her.
If you have had good luck with them, then it is your good fortune. You are in the minority.
Good fortune or not it is still YOUR RIGHT to have a declaration in lieu in place of a guarantor. IT is NOT THEIR PLACE to suggest one or the other (another case where someone in the consular office has OVERSTEPPED their bounds.
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I guess you forget the word--- forgive.
Sometimes it is better to do that than to hold a grudge.
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I agree with Tom though... The people at the embassy are generally NOT considerate in regards to their level of clarity in communication |
Then I guess there are some real benefits to being a Christian. I pray ad make sure my attitude is correct and God allows things to go well. I have dealt with the Embassy for years and do try to avoid it but basically each time I have not had a problem. |
Forgiveness has NOTHING TO DO with their incompetence and their NOT DOING THEIR JOB as per their job description.
They are paid to do a job and they do not do it.
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Stan Rogers
Joined: 20 Aug 2010
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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I found a guarantor in Korea. Some of you really should go out and make some professional type friends.
I get the feeling that too many Canadians only know their students, co workers, a Korean girl and a bartender. |
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crossmr

Joined: 22 Nov 2008 Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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I've had nothing but good experiences at the embassy. Heck one time when I was doing some paperwork they just let me come back at 2 pm without an appointment. Another time I got something notarized that was fairly complicated and that they didn't usually do, so they weren't sure about. Well it ended up coming back to me because it needed to be stamped in several additional places and some other things, they apologized and the lady spent about 35 minutes fixing it for no additional charge.
As for knowing a lot of people
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* Dentist
* Judge
* Practising lawyer
* Magistrate
* Mayor
* Medical doctor
* Notary public
* Police officer
* Signing officer of a bank
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Other than making random friends, a doctor and dentist are likely to be the only people most people would known for 2 years unless they'd gotten themselves in trouble.I haven't really seen a dentist while I've been here, but by the time my passport comes up, I'll have known my doctor for over 2 years. |
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Captain Corea

Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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superNET wrote: |
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I agree with Tom though... The people at the embassy are generally NOT considerate in regards to their level of clarity in communication |
Then I guess there are some real benefits to being a Christian. I pray ad make sure my attitude is correct and God allows things to go well. I have dealt with the Embassy for years and do try to avoid it but basically each time I have not had a problem. |
So I talk about their poor communication... and you tell me to turn to god?
Are you serious?
So I suppose when I was filling out the PR application for my wife, and it was full of inconsistencies and vagueness, I should have turned to the bible too? Perhaps the bible would have given me the answer to page 6, subsection 4? |
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