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Upgrading my budget gaming machine. Some advice?
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hanguker



Joined: 16 Mar 2005
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:32 pm    Post subject: Upgrading my budget gaming machine. Some advice? Reply with quote

Here's what I'm looking at (prices from an online retailer):

AMD Phenom II x6 1055 184K
ASRock 770 Extreme3 80K
(2X= 4GB) G.SKILL DDR3 2GB PC3-10600 CL9 RIPJAWS 72K
EVGA GTX460 1GB 232K

TOTAL = ~570K

I've got everything else.
I chose the GTX460 over the AMD 6850 because it seems to perform a little better in FPS games.
I considered an Intel i5 760 because it has better gaming benchmarks than the Phenom. However, it and its mainboard are more expensive (+75K).

What do you guys think? Is it future proof enough to play new games for 5 years? Should I go i5 4 core?

EDIT: I'm upgrading from a slower core2duo/4GB-800Mhz RAM/9600GT GPU

Thanks for any advice.
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vDroop



Joined: 25 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks fine. 5 years may be pushing it though. The best graphics card of 2005 (7800GTX) can barely play today's games on the lowest settings.
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Nuggets



Joined: 23 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most of the time, the gpu is the limiting factor when it comes to video games. Your current rig with a gpu upgrade could be enough depending on your goals.
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hanguker



Joined: 16 Mar 2005
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wanted to just get a GTX460 with my current rig, but I heard that my CPU is going to bottleneck it.

Is this true? I've got an Intel e5200

As it is now I can barely squeeze 20 FPS out of Black Ops.
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Nuggets



Joined: 23 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are some games that are a bit more cpu intensive. But in your current rig, I'd say it's the gpu. You could easily over clock your cpu to 3.0 to remove any hints of bottlenecking.

Try this, since you are pretty much set on getting something 'better' - just buy the gpu first and give it ago. If it achieves the results that you are looking for than there's no need to spend anymore cash.

If it's still dragging a bit more than you like, then reconsider spending more money.
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks good, Hanguker.

In fact, two of your parts I use myself in my gaming/media rig. The 1055T and the G.Skill R AM.

I wouldn't worry about the CPU bottlenecking......it has a turbo function which raises the clock to 3.3 on 3 of the cores. Plenty ample for any gaming situation.

Or, you could do what I do and just overclock all 6 cores to 3.5ghz!! The overclock is pretty easy, totally safe and doesn't use any more voltage than stock.....I've been running my PC 24/7 at 3.5ghz for weeks now. Totally stable......it's basically giving you something that approaches Intel's i7 980x ($1000!!) for 180,000 won.

Isn't that EVGA 460 more expensive than other 460's? EVGA are usually the most expensive GPU brand.
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hanguker



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the great advice guys.

The EVGA is actually reasonably priced on danawa, but I'll check into it.

update: the cheapest I could find was an inno3d for 220K, the superclocked evga is 240K
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hanguker



Joined: 16 Mar 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vDroop wrote:
Looks fine. 5 years may be pushing it though. The best graphics card of 2005 (7800GTX) can barely play today's games on the lowest settings.


True enough. I guess I'd just like to play current FPS, i.e Black Ops, over 40 FPS. I've heard that the tech has plateaued, so I'm hoping future games won't be too demanding.

BTW - Do you guys think I should get a USB 3.0 board? Also, I've heard that some of the new/future integrated-graphics main boards allow you to shut off your graphics card and switch to integrated when you are not gaming.
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eamo



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hanguker wrote:
Thanks for the great advice guys.

The EVGA is actually reasonably priced on danawa, but I'll check into it.

update: the cheapest I could find was an inno3d for 220K, the superclocked evga is 240K


I'd go with the EVGA.
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Nuggets



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

does Evga offer a lifetime warranty in Korea?
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wishfullthinkng



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would say go with the Intel chip without a doubt. Yes it's more expensive, but it's worth it. Until AMD's next generation chips are released they simply cannot even compare to the I series. The i5 should be good enough for your budget system to last quite some time whereas you will probably finding yourself upgrading the AMD core in a few years time.
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hanguker



Joined: 16 Mar 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wishfullthinkng wrote:
I would say go with the Intel chip without a doubt. Yes it's more expensive, but it's worth it. Until AMD's next generation chips are released they simply cannot even compare to the I series. The i5 should be good enough for your budget system to last quite some time whereas you will probably finding yourself upgrading the AMD core in a few years time.


I'm tempted by the i5 myself, as the gaming benches are much better. However, eamo makes a good point about overclocking the AMD, but equal to an i7 I'm not so sure.

decisions decisions.
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singerdude



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would wait until Sandy Bridge is released, which is supposed to be on Jan 9 for the quad core models. Or if you want AMD, you might want to wait for bulldozer, but that might be Q1 or Q2 2011. Unfortunately, bulldozer will not be compatible with the current AM3 boards. Personally, I bought an el cheapo AMD system a few months ago, and plan to upgrade to either bulldozer or sandy bridge when both are released and I can then compare them.
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hanguker



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

singerdude wrote:
I would wait until Sandy Bridge is released, which is supposed to be on Jan 9 for the quad core models. Or if you want AMD, you might want to wait for bulldozer, but that might be Q1 or Q2 2011. Unfortunately, bulldozer will not be compatible with the current AM3 boards. Personally, I bought an el cheapo AMD system a few months ago, and plan to upgrade to either bulldozer or sandy bridge when both are released and I can then compare them.


This stuff is going to be high-end and really expensive when it comes out. I'll have to wait another year for the prices to fall below 200K. I'm trying to put together a budget machine sometime soon. Smile
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singerdude



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hanguker wrote:
singerdude wrote:
I would wait until Sandy Bridge is released, which is supposed to be on Jan 9 for the quad core models. Or if you want AMD, you might want to wait for bulldozer, but that might be Q1 or Q2 2011. Unfortunately, bulldozer will not be compatible with the current AM3 boards. Personally, I bought an el cheapo AMD system a few months ago, and plan to upgrade to either bulldozer or sandy bridge when both are released and I can then compare them.


This stuff is going to be high-end and really expensive when it comes out. I'll have to wait another year for the prices to fall below 200K. I'm trying to put together a budget machine sometime soon. Smile


I just looked up the price. The i5-2300 2.8 GHz quad core is supposed to be $177. Of course the retail will be higher, but hopefully not much more. There are four i5 processors priced below the $200 range. I'm looking at the i5-2500k, which is the unlocked version. That one costs $216. It's about the same price as the current i5 750.

Edit: I did forget about the motherboards, which may come at a premium because of the new chipset. I haven't found any pricing on those. Does anyone know?
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