Korean Job Discussion Forums

[hellofaniceguy]

Unreal! 1.3 a month! How cheap and careless are the powers to be!

http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2930303

[jvalmer]

I wonder if they'll stop those credit card people from getting onto school grounds.

[WadRUG'naDoo]

It's a good idea. You should also have to swipe a card or something to get in.

I wonder if these are government jobs.

[conrad2]

This is complete overkill and unnecessary- just fear mongering. Moms and gradmoms are all over the schools on a daily basis. Will they be stopped from entering? How much do you want to bet that these guards will be managed by some agency that takes a little cut of the money for their trouble.

[Zackback]

I used to be a security guard. So many people don't take us seriously. The pay/benefits/vacation/etc were all lousy but of course we were told that we are "professionals". It was all a big joke. We used to say to each other, "White House security at welfare prices". So when we heard of people sneaking in illegal no-no's through airport security and everyone got pissed of at the guards we just didn't care. Hey you get what you pay for! Last I heard the turn over rate as a security guard in the USA was 6 months. I wonder why!
Does anything I'm saying sound like teaching English in Korea?

[tatertot]

Great, just what we need: more security theater (ala the US TSA). It isn't effective at all, it just shows that "we are taking this seriously." I hate it.

Do you want to prevent bad people from hanging out on school grounds? Here's a simple solution: don't let people who aren't employees or students onto school grounds unless they go straight to the office and get some sort of visitor clearance.

I work at a Seoul elementary school after-school program and there are all sorts of random people walking around all day. There are old women and men walking laps around the school buildings, walking around the track, and sometimes they walk through the school hallways. These creepy old grandmas and grandpas frequently stop and stare into my classroom for a while during class. These aren't all parents, grandparents or other relatives, either.

With all these random people walking around constantly, how is the new security guard going to determine which people are up to no good? Security guards aren't necessary. Just get rid of all the people who don't need to be at school. Any teacher can call the office and report unauthorized visitors. You don't (shouldn't?) need a special below-minimum-wage receiving employee just to shoo them away.

[machoman]

my co teacher said when she was in her all girls middle school, a random ajosshi came into the building with a trench coat and started exposing himself to the classrooms through the windows. crazy.

my school has a security guard, but that exact incident can so easily happen again.

[Smee]

[NYC_Gal 2.0]

When I went to elementary school, there were always one or two people sitting at a desk near the main entrance to sign people in and out. All of the other entrances were closed. You could open them from the inside, but not the outside. If the doors were open, there was a teacher nearby.

This was 20-something years ago, and I didn't live in the inner city.

[Kwangjuchicken]

Parents hailed the measure.

�The top priority should be blocking strangers getting into schools,� said Maeng Shin-young, mother of a fourth-grade daughter. �My daughter is afraid of returning home after classes because she has to walk alone.�


And just how will guards on school campus make her walk home more safe. Talk about a bad choice of quote to support this idea.

[NYC_Gal 2.0]

I hate seeing little ones walking home in the dark (many stay late). There's a 1st grader I walk home, when I can catch her leaving. Often, she leaves 5 minutes before I do, though

[seoulsucker]

I wonder if these guys are going to have to provide criminal background checks.

[Junior]

[Zackback]

Smee,
Some guards did care. I worked with some retired military guys as well as police officers and they did an excellent job. Of course they too were treated and looked upon as garbage. It didn't take long for them to quit...only to be replaced by - guards that didn't care.

[isitts]

The guards at my school manage the traffic and help herd the kids through the front gate in the morning.

After school starts, the main guard monitors the halways to make sure kids go to class on time. Also seems to check up on me to make sure I look busy during the break. Although it's possible he spies on the other teachers as well, I somehow doubt it.

The funny thing is, he's a friendly guy. But the nature of his job just doesn't warrant friendly returns. I'm like, "Dude, you're a spy. You were sent here to spy on me. Don't '안영하세요' me."

Anyway, yeah. Feels like a police run school now. Fun.