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j0anne



Joined: 17 Dec 2010
Location: Mississauga, Ontario

PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:19 am    Post subject: Advice for my first time applying/teaching overseas Reply with quote

Hi ^^ I will be graduating with my H.BSc. in Psychology this year (my convocation is in June 2011), and I've recently decided to apply for teaching opportunities in Korea or Japan. I hope to start working as soon as possible.

I haven't applied to any jobs in Korea yet. However, here is what I have in mind in order to prepare..please let me know if I am missing anything or if you can foresee any issues with my plan:

- I am currently researching hagwons/public schools/recruiting companies to apply to (I have so many websites bookmarked right now).

- I will receive my diploma at convocation, however, I will ask my university for a letter indicating my expected graduation date.

- I will get my Criminal Record Search done at my local police HQ as soon as possible (since it can take up to 6-8 weeks until I receive it)

- I have taken a few linguistic courses during my university studies, and I plan on taking a TESOL course (i.e., Trinity CertTESOL course) in April-May 2011.

- I know I should be prepared to send a copy of my passport as well as any additional documents requested (e.g., transcript, recent photo, etc.).

- Main lessons that I've learned from reading other posts: A good indicator is if I'm able to contact other foreigners working at the school; I should avoid jobs which require more than 8 hours of teaching a day; and overall, i should be cautious but it depends on my luck at a certain branch, with future co-workers, etc.

Please offer me any advice~ I'm pretty overwhelmed with the amount of information on the internet.

Thanks in advance =)

Joanne
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Auslegung



Joined: 14 Jan 2009
Location: MB, SC

PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I taught in Korea from 3/2009-3/2010, and am currently applying again. As for recruiters, I'm using Morgan Recruiters this time around, but the first time I just got a job where a friend already worked. Morgan Recruiters is the company that the Korean embassy suggests, so give them a try, they look impressive.

Your criminal record search is MUCH more difficult now, you've gotta go through the FBI and it can take up to 3 months. Go here for help: https://sites.google.com/site/jmphry/documents. That entire site is pretty good, it tells you things like how much stuff costs, information on using foreign electronics over there, etc.

As for teaching 8 hours a day, you definitely don't want to teach that much. At most you should be at the school 8 hours a day, but no more than 6 should be teaching.

You're right about being cautious and hoping for good coworkers, etc; I've heard horror stories and dream-come-true stories from different employees of the same campus, same semester. And you need to realize that getting a perfect job is a long-shot; it's much more likely your job is going to have the average amount of stress, maybe more, and an incompetent boss and a couple incompetent coworkers.

All that is in answer to your questions, but here's some of my own advice from my experience there. First off, don't compromise on what job you want. If you want to teach middle school for example, don't let them tell you they don't have any positions. If they don't, then go to a different organization. Now, if you're pressed for time then yes you're going to have to compromise, but it doesn't seem like you're pressed for time.

Secondly, if they offer 2.2 million won, you can probably get 2.3 million won, or 2.4 if you have experience or a teaching degree/TESOL. Everyone in the world has teaching experience in some form or another, so make sure to highlight that in your resume. If nothing else, I'm sure you have helped train new employees at a job or helped a friend with their homework; play that up.

Another thing to ask about is the opportunity for overtime if you're interested. And I'm not talking teaching extra classes because 30 hours/week is a full week and they probably don't have anymore classes. When I first worked for Topia, they offered us the opportunity to grade online homework which netted ~$100/week.

Finally, feel free to PM me if you have any more questions and I'll do my best to answer them. I really wished I had access to this kind of information before I went my first time, I didn't discover this site until I had been there for a couple months so you're definitely ahead of me, and probably most others.
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I-am-me



Joined: 21 Feb 2006
Location: Hermit Kingdom

PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dont expect much for pay. Budget crisis going on here.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 3:13 am    Post subject: Re: Advice for my first time applying/teaching overseas Reply with quote

j0anne wrote:
Hi ^^ I will be graduating with my H.BSc. in Psychology this year (my convocation is in June 2011), and I've recently decided to apply for teaching opportunities in Korea or Japan. I hope to start working as soon as possible.

I haven't applied to any jobs in Korea yet. However, here is what I have in mind in order to prepare..please let me know if I am missing anything or if you can foresee any issues with my plan:

- I am currently researching hagwons/public schools/recruiting companies to apply to (I have so many websites bookmarked right now).

- I will receive my diploma at convocation, however, I will ask my university for a letter indicating my expected graduation date.

- I will get my Criminal Record Search done at my local police HQ as soon as possible (since it can take up to 6-8 weeks until I receive it)

- I have taken a few linguistic courses during my university studies, and I plan on taking a TESOL course (i.e., Trinity CertTESOL course) in April-May 2011.

- I know I should be prepared to send a copy of my passport as well as any additional documents requested (e.g., transcript, recent photo, etc.).

- Main lessons that I've learned from reading other posts: A good indicator is if I'm able to contact other foreigners working at the school; I should avoid jobs which require more than 8 hours of teaching a day; and overall, i should be cautious but it depends on my luck at a certain branch, with future co-workers, etc.

Please offer me any advice~ I'm pretty overwhelmed with the amount of information on the internet.

Thanks in advance =)

Joanne


You are seriously over thinking this.

NOTHING will happen until after convocation. You can't get a visa until you have the parchment in your hot, little hands and are able to get the consulate certification on a photocopy it.

Get an RCMP (with prints) check done. Nothing else will be accepted.
Try to get the issue date close to your convocation (they are only good for 6 months from date of issue).

AFTER you get your degree and CBC take them to the local Korean consulate and get them certified.

If you don't have your passport yet, apply now. It can take a while.

When you have all 3-4 (passport, degree, CBC + TESOL cert) get them scanned.

E-mail your resume (with low resolution scans - 200kb each) of your passport (information page) degree and CBC to as many recruiters as you need to get a job.

AFTER you are ready things can happen fast. It typically only takes 12-21 days from contract offer to getting on the plane.

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dyc



Joined: 16 Dec 2010
Location: Vancouver

PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 12:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Advice for my first time applying/teaching overseas Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
j0anne wrote:
Hi ^^ I will be graduating with my H.BSc. in Psychology this year (my convocation is in June 2011), and I've recently decided to apply for teaching opportunities in Korea or Japan. I hope to start working as soon as possible.

I haven't applied to any jobs in Korea yet. However, here is what I have in mind in order to prepare..please let me know if I am missing anything or if you can foresee any issues with my plan:

- I am currently researching hagwons/public schools/recruiting companies to apply to (I have so many websites bookmarked right now).

- I will receive my diploma at convocation, however, I will ask my university for a letter indicating my expected graduation date.

- I will get my Criminal Record Search done at my local police HQ as soon as possible (since it can take up to 6-8 weeks until I receive it)

- I have taken a few linguistic courses during my university studies, and I plan on taking a TESOL course (i.e., Trinity CertTESOL course) in April-May 2011.

- I know I should be prepared to send a copy of my passport as well as any additional documents requested (e.g., transcript, recent photo, etc.).

- Main lessons that I've learned from reading other posts: A good indicator is if I'm able to contact other foreigners working at the school; I should avoid jobs which require more than 8 hours of teaching a day; and overall, i should be cautious but it depends on my luck at a certain branch, with future co-workers, etc.

Please offer me any advice~ I'm pretty overwhelmed with the amount of information on the internet.

Thanks in advance =)

Joanne


You are seriously over thinking this.

NOTHING will happen until after convocation. You can't get a visa until you have the parchment in your hot, little hands and are able to get the consulate certification on a photocopy it.

Get an RCMP (with prints) check done. Nothing else will be accepted.
Try to get the issue date close to your convocation (they are only good for 6 months from date of issue).

AFTER you get your degree and CBC take them to the local Korean consulate and get them certified.

If you don't have your passport yet, apply now. It can take a while.

When you have all 3-4 (passport, degree, CBC + TESOL cert) get them scanned.

E-mail your resume (with low resolution scans - 200kb each) of your passport (information page) degree and CBC to as many recruiters as you need to get a job.

AFTER you are ready things can happen fast. It typically only takes 12-21 days from contract offer to getting on the plane.

.


Damn ttompatz, this response needs to be stickied. So concise.
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j0anne



Joined: 17 Dec 2010
Location: Mississauga, Ontario

PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@ Auslegung

Hey, I wish I could PM you but I haven�t made 25 posts yet =(
- I will look into Morgan Recruiters when I start applying & your link was helpful as well � thank you.
- Yeah I�ll keep in mind that, inevitably, I�ll have some stress from my job/boss/co-workers/students, etc. even though I try to be cautious =p
- I don�t have a particular preference for elementary/middle-school/high school students right now; it will be my first time teaching a class�any comments regarding teaching the different age groups?
- Thanks for the tip on highlighting any related teaching experience. I hope that tutoring experience and the TESOL certificate (which I plan to get in April) will get me a decent offer.
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j0anne



Joined: 17 Dec 2010
Location: Mississauga, Ontario

PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@ttompatz

Hey�yes, I know~ I have a habit of over-thinking. Thanks for your feedback, it was very helpful =)

- I found out how to get my RCMP check from this website: http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cr-cj/fing-empr2-eng.htm It says that the processing time could take up to 120 days. Do you think Feb. is a good time to apply for it, if I hope to start working in July 2011 or later?

- So based on what I read on this website: http://www.koreanconsulate.on.ca/en/?mnu=a02b04
�Once I get my degree parchment, I need to have my degree notarized by a notary public && then I need to get the consulate certification on a photocopy of my degree (as well as on my CBC)

- I do have my passport ready � so when I am making my first contact with recruiters, should I send my resume + CBC + my scanned passport (info page)..all at once OR should I just mention that I have all of my documents ready?
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

j0anne wrote:
@ttompatz

Hey�yes, I know~ I have a habit of over-thinking. Thanks for your feedback, it was very helpful =)

- I found out how to get my RCMP check from this website: http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cr-cj/fing-empr2-eng.htm It says that the processing time could take up to 120 days. Do you think Feb. is a good time to apply for it, if I hope to start working in July 2011 or later?

- So based on what I read on this website: http://www.koreanconsulate.on.ca/en/?mnu=a02b04
�Once I get my degree parchment, I need to have my degree notarized by a notary public && then I need to get the consulate certification on a photocopy of my degree (as well as on my CBC)

- I do have my passport ready � so when I am making my first contact with recruiters, should I send my resume + CBC + my scanned passport (info page)..all at once OR should I just mention that I have all of my documents ready?


IF you have an RCMP detachment in your city/town it won't take very long to get the check done (as short as 72 hours). You do NOT need the VSS check done. IF you have to do it by mail it CAN (but not always) take up to 4 months.

IF you are doing it by mail, send it off in Feb and you should be fine.

For the degree:
-Make a photo copy (or 3).
-Take them to your local notary and have the copies notarized as "true copies" of the original.
-Take the original (along with a sealed "official" university transcript), the copies and a sealed transcript to the Korean consulate and get the copies certified (I think the cost is now $4.25 each).

Have them certify your CBC at the same time.

NOW, scan the certified degree, CBC and passport info page.
Attach the scans along with your degree to your job applications.

IF you are considering a public school position then you will also need to get 2 letters of reference (scan them as well).

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Auslegung



Joined: 14 Jan 2009
Location: MB, SC

PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 5:36 pm