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DanseurVertical
Joined: 24 Nov 2010
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Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 3:48 pm Post subject: Which hagwon or chain in SK is most widely respected? |
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Among foreign teachers, as well as among the Korean populace. Thoughts?
[I know well that among chains, each has its exceptionally better or worse individual schools -- I'm just curious about general reputation.] |
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olsanairbase
Joined: 30 Aug 2010
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Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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Your premise is flawed since it assumes that ANY hogwan or hogwan is respected in SK. |
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dyc
Joined: 16 Dec 2010 Location: Vancouver
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Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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The S Koreans I've talked to seem to favor Avalon and ECC - the "big name" ones. But of course, we have all heard the horror stories from some of the YBM-ECC franchises. |
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ktkates87
Joined: 13 Apr 2010 Location: Busan
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Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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for some reason every one in my town thinks their child will come out a genius if they go to Poly School. |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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For a hagwan or chain to be truly respected I'd say it would need the following.
1) Only employ experienced and qualified teachers
2) Pay them around 3 million a month for around 20 hours a week of teaching with a sliding scale for more quailifications and experience.
3) Have regular teacher development workshops
4) Have management who are more experienced and qualified than the teachers, get paid more and have time down to observe teachers and give them constructive crtiticism.
5) Have a level system based on proper assessments and placement testing.
Otherwise it's probably just down to good marketing or current trend. |
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misher
Joined: 14 Oct 2008
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Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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For a hagwan or chain to be truly respected I'd say it would need the following.
1) Only employ experienced and qualified teachers
2) Pay them around 3 million a month for around 20 hours a week of teaching with a sliding scale for more quailifications and experience.
3) Have regular teacher development workshops
4) Have management who are more experienced and qualified than the teachers, get paid more and have time down to observe teachers and give them constructive crtiticism.
5) Have a level system based on proper assessments and placement testing.
Otherwise it's probably just down to good marketing or current trend |
One of the hagwons I work for pretty much has 1, 3, 4 and 5.
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2) Pay them around 3 million a month for around 20 hours a week of teaching with a sliding scale for more quailifications and experience. |
Never going to happen. Pay will stay the same or go down from here (by adding more hours) on out I'm afraid. Too many newbies and MA TESOLs. |
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Skyblue
Joined: 02 Mar 2007
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Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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Does the British Council count as a hagwon? |
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wylies99

Joined: 13 May 2006 Location: I'm one cool cat!
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Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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Even among Korean mothers and students there is little "respect" or loyalty for hagwons. They switch around to different ones at the drop of a hat and always try to cut side deals for groups in their churches or temples. If anything they are more loyal to certain teachers and will follow a good teacher to any hagwon. |
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hellofaniceguy

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: On your computer screen!
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Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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Not a one; no korean owned hogwon is well respected, let alone respected. Same with chain schools.
These places are just to make money off of desperate parents hoping that their little Johnny/Susie can learn to speak decent English and be able to get a decent job and leave korea. |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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Does the British Council count as a hagwon? |
Technically it's a registered charity so no. However cetrtain centres like Seoul are cash cows to generate income to prop up centres which don't generate any income but are in strategically important countries (like Iraq) so in a way they are. Though I'm sure they wouldn't appreciate anyone calling them one. |
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bobbybigfoot
Joined: 05 May 2007 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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Respected by foreigners? None.
Respected by parents? Meh, I dunno. |
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Skyblue
Joined: 02 Mar 2007
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Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:17 am Post subject: |
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edwardcatflap wrote: |
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Does the British Council count as a hagwon? |
Technically it's a registered charity so no. However cetrtain centres like Seoul are cash cows to generate income to prop up centres which don't generate any income but are in strategically important countries (like Iraq) so in a way they are. Though I'm sure they wouldn't appreciate anyone calling them one. |
Yes, I guess my point was it's a chain school where you can teach English, and it's fairly highly regarded. |
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vermouth
Joined: 21 Dec 2009 Location: Guro, Seoul
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Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:38 am Post subject: |
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When I was investigating before taking my current job I didn't really hear anyone who had much bad to say about Poly other than that it has you working a lot of hours. Which if that's most of what people are saying bad about a hagwon it's going pretty well. |
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pkang0202

Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 4:47 am Post subject: |
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OP, your premise is incorrect. Its not the chain or name of the hagwon that is important. It is the area it is in. |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:59 am Post subject: |
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Why do you care if it is respected?
You should be caring more about what the current teachers think about it and what kind of working conditions they have.
There is no such thing as a respected hagwon or chain. |
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