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pkang0202
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 Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:25 pm Post subject: Girl needs amputations after 5 hour wait in ER |
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HUURRRRAAAAY FOR OBAMACARE!!!
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Jeffers and Yang, his fianc�, took their daughter to an urgent care center, where specialists told them to go to the emergency room. By the time they arrived at Methodist, he said, splotches that looked like bruises had developed on Malyia's cheeks, and she was "getting really weak," he said. "After a while, she couldn't even walk," and her fever had jumped to 103 degrees.
Jeffers, 29, said he pushed for immediate care, but was rebuffed. After about five hours, he said, he ambushed a nurse and demanded to see a doctor. The physician took blood samples that suggested Malyia was in liver failure, Jeffers said. She was taken by ambulance to the pediatric intensive care unit at Sutter Memorial Hospital. Doctors there had her flown to Stanford aboard a helicopter.
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Exactly which provision of the health care legislation are you trying to blame for this unfortunate occurrence? |
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recessiontime
Joined: 21 Jun 2010
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| Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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| socialized medicine rocks, you know it. |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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| recessiontime wrote: |
| socialized medicine rocks, you know it. |
A couple arrives at a private, for-profit hospital that makes their young girl wait for 5 hours, almost killing her in the process, and leaves them with tens of thousands of dollars in medical bills that they almost assuredly cannot afford due to their health insurance plan insufficiently covering them, and your opinion is that the problem is socialized medicine? The only way this situation could have been less socialized is if the emergency room had turned her away outright due to not being able to pay in advance. |
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pkang0202
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Fox wrote: |
| recessiontime wrote: |
| socialized medicine rocks, you know it. |
A couple arrives at a private, for-profit hospital that makes their young girl wait for 5 hours, almost killing her in the process, and leaves them with tens of thousands of dollars in medical bills that they almost assuredly cannot afford due to their health insurance plan insufficiently covering them, and your opinion is that the problem is socialized medicine? The only way this situation could have been less socialized is if the emergency room had turned her away outright due to not being able to pay in advance. |
The HealthCare law has been in effect for a few months now. Why is this happening?
Big Government is so efficient isn't it? |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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| pkang0202 wrote: |
The HealthCare law has been in effect for a few months now. Why is this happening? |
Okay, so in actuality you have no idea about the details of the bill, the time frame of their implementation, or the reason those details materialized as they did, and are just using the unfortunate tragedy of this girl to take a cheap pot shot at President Obama and "Big Government." |
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NYC_Gal 2.0
Joined: 10 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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| pkang0202 wrote: |
| Fox wrote: |
| recessiontime wrote: |
| socialized medicine rocks, you know it. |
A couple arrives at a private, for-profit hospital that makes their young girl wait for 5 hours, almost killing her in the process, and leaves them with tens of thousands of dollars in medical bills that they almost assuredly cannot afford due to their health insurance plan insufficiently covering them, and your opinion is that the problem is socialized medicine? The only way this situation could have been less socialized is if the emergency room had turned her away outright due to not being able to pay in advance. |
The HealthCare law has been in effect for a few months now. Why is this happening?
Big Government is so efficient isn't it? |
You don't know what you're talking about. |
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Hugo85
Joined: 27 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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| pkang0202 wrote: |
| Fox wrote: |
| recessiontime wrote: |
| socialized medicine rocks, you know it. |
A couple arrives at a private, for-profit hospital that makes their young girl wait for 5 hours, almost killing her in the process, and leaves them with tens of thousands of dollars in medical bills that they almost assuredly cannot afford due to their health insurance plan insufficiently covering them, and your opinion is that the problem is socialized medicine? The only way this situation could have been less socialized is if the emergency room had turned her away outright due to not being able to pay in advance. |
The HealthCare law has been in effect for a few months now. Why is this happening?
Big Government is so efficient isn't it? |
Obamacare has never been about improving the efficiency or the quality of medical services. |
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Koreadays
Joined: 20 May 2008
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| Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:53 am Post subject: |
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America- The number 1 country in the world.
Don't forget it people. |
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rollo
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Location: China
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| Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 6:12 am Post subject: |
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| Yep the U.s. the only country where people have medical emergencies! |
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NYC_Gal 2.0
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| Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 6:34 am Post subject: |
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Hm. When I was 19 or so, I had my first migraine during a semester I took off to travel. Because I wasn't a full-time student, I was without health insurance for the only time in my life. Not only did I have to wait well over an hour, but the bill for absolutely NOTHING DONE besides asking me a few questions and giving me a tylenol 3 was $1,500.00.
Obamacare? Are you mad? |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 6:56 am Post subject: |
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| NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote: |
Hm. When I was 19 or so, I had my first migraine during a semester I took off to travel. Because I wasn't a full-time student, I was without health insurance for the only time in my life. Not only did I have to wait well over an hour, but the bill for absolutely NOTHING DONE besides asking me a few questions and giving me a tylenol 3 was $1,500.00.
Obamacare? Are you mad? |
And no listed prices as well. It is a very strange system. The person needing care has little idea what it will cost until after it is given. |
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Panda
Joined: 25 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 7:03 am Post subject: |
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I don't know much about American health care system, but even so I can still say it's wrong for people to post a single story and make judgments like
the system sucks, the government sucks...ect...
This tragedy could simply be caused by the lack of professionality of the doctors and nurses in that single hospital, similar cases would happen everywhere in the world. |
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recessiontime
Joined: 21 Jun 2010
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| Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 7:10 am Post subject: |
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| Fox wrote: |
| recessiontime wrote: |
| socialized medicine rocks, you know it. |
A couple arrives at a private, for-profit hospital that makes their young girl wait for 5 hours, almost killing her in the process, and leaves them with tens of thousands of dollars in medical bills that they almost assuredly cannot afford due to their health insurance plan insufficiently covering them, and your opinion is that the problem is socialized medicine? The only way this situation could have been less socialized is if the emergency room had turned her away outright due to not being able to pay in advance. |
I reread the article and you are right and I am wrong (let me be the 1st person on this forum to admit wrong to you). It said the girl waited 5 hrs so I automatically thought that care was being rationed. Turns out, they just messed up bad. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
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http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/money_co/2011/01/rate-increase-by-blue-shield-of-california-prompts-criticism.html
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Another one of California�s largest health insurers has stunned individual policyholders with news of huge rate increases -- this time it�s Blue Shield of California seeking hikes of as much as 59% for tens of thousands of customers March 1.
[Update: To read an updated version of this report, go here.]
Blue Shield�s plan comes less than a year after Anthem Blue Cross tried and failed to raise rates as much as 39% for about 700,000 California customers.
San Francisco-based Blue Shield said the increases were the result of fast-rising healthcare costs and other expenses resulting from the new healthcare laws passed last year. �We raise rates only when absolutely necessary to pay the accelerating cost of medical care for our members,� the company told its customers last month.
In all, the insurer said that 193,000 policyholders would see increases averaging 30% to 35%, the result of three separate rate hikes since October that have been rolled into one for about 7,000 members.
Nearly one-quarter of the affected customers -- 44,000 -- will see cumulative increases of more than 50% over five months.
Blue Shield notified some policyholders of the rate increases in late December. That�s when Michael Fraser, a longtime Blue Shield policyholder from San Diego, learned that his monthly bill would climb 59%, to $431 from $271. |
59%? These firms are asking to get smashed up. |
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