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Korean Mothers Rock
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ghostrider



Joined: 27 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 4:31 pm    Post subject: Korean Mothers Rock Reply with quote

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I have an American friend who, like other American parents, sends her children to their bedroom at 8 o’clock in the evening. I asked, “Why do you send your children upstairs so early?” She answered without hesitation, “I need my own time too.” Of course, she had a point. Nevertheless, it occurred to me that if she were a Korean mother, she would not do that. In the eyes of a Korean mother, it would look too selfish.

“The Big Bang Theory,” too, well illustrates the difference between Korean and American mothers. Granted that it is a comedy designed to make us laugh, the sitcom still exhibits some characteristics, albeit exaggerated, of American mothers through Sheldon and Leonard’s mothers. Compared to Korean mothers, the two American mothers are often too generous, indifferent and even negligent under the slogan of “Let our children be independent.” 


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Korean mothers are exceptionally dedicated and devoted to their children. When it comes to their children, they are ready to sacrifice their lives at any time. Shin Kyung-sook’s award-winning novel, “Please Look after Mom,” insightfully explores the meaning of “mother” in Korean society. 

The novel’s status as a New York Times Book Review bestseller shows that the story of a Korean mother appealed to the American mind as well. Indeed, it may be a good idea to promote the image of the “Korean mother” as an icon of Korean culture in the international community. Korean mothers are so unique and exceptional, after all.
 
http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20130917000515
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Seoulman69



Joined: 14 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I find worrying is that the author works at Seoul National University as an English professor. This is a guy who uses the Big Bang Theory to support his argument.
I don't want to argue about this because every mother loves their child and does their best to raise them in the way they see as most beneficial to their child. This is just more biased shit from some lunatic Korean.
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optik404



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isn't it normal for kids to go to bed around that time?
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caniff



Joined: 03 Feb 2004
Location: All over the map

PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

*fart sound*

^ Okay, this isn't a complete response to the article and I'm nothing if not concerned about the issue of....


Who am I kidding? Korean mothers rock (just try fighting one). I'm no pushover, but they ain't no joke.
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WadRUG'naDoo



Joined: 15 Jun 2010
Location: Shanghai

PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

caniff wrote:
*fart sound*

^ Okay, this isn't a complete response to the article and I'm nothing if not concerned about the issue of....


Who am I kidding? Korean mothers rock (just try fighting one). I'm no pushover, but they ain't no joke.


They weeble, but they don't fall down.
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Nolos



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whoever wrote this is a professional troll. No other words to explain such bs.
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misher



Joined: 14 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dedicate time for their children for what?

Not sayimg the western way is perfect. The hands off, everyone is a winner, you can be a flower if you want to be a flower is actually pretty bad for many reasons but I actually think the Korean way is worse and incredibly selfish because it's entirely about image.

It's not education for education's sake. Child' health and organic growth be damned. Just ace your damn KSAT, go to SNU and become a diplomat in MOFA. we don't care what you actually learn along the way. It's bragging rights and money/prestige so the parents can look better than other parents. Western parents can certainly be guilty of this too but Korea is just on a whole other level with this.
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Who's Your Daddy?



Joined: 30 May 2010
Location: Victoria, Canada.

PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That article reminds me why I don't read Korean English media, what garbage.

Could the difference be; American mothers are more likely to have a job. Or Korean fathers work late, so the Korean mother doesn't want to watch TV alone? Or the home only has one TV, vs. the kids having a TV in their room? Or the kids sleep on the floor of the living room and don't have their own bedroom? There are other factors which might result in this outcome.

Nolos wrote:
Whoever wrote this is a professional troll. No other words to explain such bs.


They'll probably get promoted. This nationalism is rewarded.
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caniff



Joined: 03 Feb 2004
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WadRUG'naDoo wrote:
caniff wrote:
*fart sound*

^ Okay, this isn't a complete response to the article and I'm nothing if not concerned about the issue of....


Who am I kidding? Korean mothers rock (just try fighting one). I'm no pushover, but they ain't no joke.


They weeble, but they don't fall down.


It's the short legs/center of gravity thing. They pounce and wrap you up below the kneecaps and you're pretty much done.

(also, I don't like creepy Canadians from Shanghai stalking me, so please stop and leave me ALONE).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc
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spilot101



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[back to the op] Gimmickry aside, anyone who's half awake will notice a huge difference in parenting (and the lack of), when looking at the two cultures. There is a reason why the US leads the world in mental illness (nearly tripling the average rate) with poor parenting/family dynamic being the primary cause. I would suggest reading Alfie Kohn for more insight, starting with the "Case Against Competition"....
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OBwannabe



Joined: 16 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Absolutely fine article. I have no issues with it, except for those two paragraphs dealing with American mothers. Totally unnecessary and it would have been a fine piece with out those paragraphs.

Yet one more feeble attempt to disparage America and all things "western?.
He essentially makes the argument that Korean mothers are better than American moms. But why? Why bother with that....isn't it good enough that moms in Korea are great?

If you are going to compare your country with America with the point being that your country is better, then all you are doing is using the USA as your measuring stick. Which in turn means it is something to aspire to and is in fact better(in your own mind).

I despise nationalistic pride.
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EZE



Joined: 05 May 2012

PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

spilot101 wrote:
[back to the op] Gimmickry aside, anyone who's half awake will notice a huge difference in parenting (and the lack of), when looking at the two cultures. There is a reason why the US leads the world in mental illness (nearly tripling the average rate) with poor parenting/family dynamic being the primary cause. I would suggest reading Alfie Kohn for more insight, starting with the "Case Against Competition"....


I really don't see a big difference between Korean mothers and American mothers. The traits the author describes as "unique" to Korean moms actually run universal across all cultures. The fathers in Korea are much better than American dads, however, as there are so many deadbeat dads in the USA.

As far as mental illness goes, I do think the USA has a higher rate of mental illness than most countries. Drug use and wars are the two biggest contributing factors to that, in my opinion. But I would actually argue that South Korea has the highest rate of mental illness in the world, since it has the world's highest suicide rate, and by a wide margin.

I think the myth about Korean moms is widely believed here in Korea. Korean co-teachers have stated such a belief and my current boss has commented about it more than once, but she also has commented more than once that it's strange that I'm right-handed since "most Americans are left-handed." Koreans believe some strange things.
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cdninkorea



Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm really sick of hearing about how Korean mothers love their children more than those of other countries. My response whenever I hear this is, "Then why does Korea export so many babies? I would think that loving mothers wouldn't put their children up for adoption at such a high rate."
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andrewchon



Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, he's made that Dan Quayle's Murphy-Brown-mistake of comparing real life with a TV show. Laughing However, what else is supposed to say? He's a prof at SNU, without the one-eyed support for his school by tiger-ajumma, his school's prestige will be lost. So, he's just doing his job by making a rallying call to the ardent supporters.
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Who's Your Daddy?



Joined: 30 May 2010
Location: Victoria, Canada.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

spilot101 wrote:
[back to the op] Gimmickry aside, anyone who's half awake will notice a huge difference in parenting (and the lack of), when looking at the two cultures. There is a reason why the US leads the world in mental illness (nearly tripling the average rate) with poor parenting/family dynamic being the primary cause. I would suggest reading Alfie Kohn for more insight, starting with the "Case Against Competition"....


Maybe the US is better at diagnosing it, not that there is less in say South Korea.

The US probably has more prostate cancer diagnosed than say Somalia, because most Somali men don't live to an old age.
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