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decolyon
Joined: 24 Jul 2010
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 Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 10:42 pm Post subject: What's up with all the kindergartens? |
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Just browsing the job postings. Looking for new work, but well down the road. It just seems like there are loads of kindergartens looking for teachers. I remember few years ago, if you wanted to teach kindy, man you really had to hunt down a place. Now it's like they make up 75% of the market. Was there a baby boom a few years ago I missed?
I teach at a kindy now and man, I can't take it. It's horrible. I am literally counting down the days on this contract. I'm much better with older elementary, middle, and high schoolers. I just don't have the patience or nerve to handle all the crying, whining, yelling, screaming, fighting, puking, running, playing, jumping, and just the incredible amount of babying that goes on here. Korean teachers treat 5 and 6 year olds like they're toddlers. Opening their milk, spoon feeding them. And yes, wiping their @$$ after they poo. It's like kids here are helpless. If some 6 year old couldn't wipe his own rump back home, man that kid would be traumatized from all the bullying he'd get. And that'd just be from the teachers. haha. j/k |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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Korean five year olds are toddlers... You realize that a Korean "six year old" is actually only four or five, right?
Anyway, most of your complaints aren't really an issue at my school. Kids that age really respond to your attitude, and if you have a bad one, you're going to have a lot more problems. |
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marsavalanche
Joined: 27 Aug 2010
Location: where pretty lies perish
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| Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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| I've taught lots of kindy classes and only about 10% are like what you described. Maybe you should question whether you're doing your job as a teacher if your classes are more like a circus. |
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decolyon
Joined: 24 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
Korean five year olds are toddlers... You realize that a Korean "six year old" is actually only four or five, right?
Anyway, most of your complaints aren't really an issue at my school. Kids that age really respond to your attitude, and if you have a bad one, you're going to have a lot more problems. |
No, they're 6 American age. My kids claim to be 8 in Korean age. That makes them at least 6 in international age. And a 6 year old that can't wipe is butt is pathetic. It's not his fault, it's the parent's and teacher's that never taught him to do it for himself by now.
Secondly, those things exist at your school. Regardless of where it is, all kids this age do those things. I'm not saying it's bad they do so, I'm just saying I can't really handle it. I want to pull my hair out each morning they come in yelling and throwing crap around at 8 in the morning. |
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interestedinhanguk
Joined: 23 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:20 am Post subject: |
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| decolyon wrote: |
| northway wrote: |
Korean five year olds are toddlers... You realize that a Korean "six year old" is actually only four or five, right?
Anyway, most of your complaints aren't really an issue at my school. Kids that age really respond to your attitude, and if you have a bad one, you're going to have a lot more problems. |
No, they're 6 American age. My kids claim to be 8 in Korean age. That makes them at least 6 in international age. And a 6 year old that can't wipe is butt is pathetic. It's not his fault, it's the parent's and teacher's that never taught him to do it for himself by now.
Secondly, those things exist at your school. Regardless of where it is, all kids this age do those things. I'm not saying it's bad they do so, I'm just saying I can't really handle it. I want to pull my hair out each morning they come in yelling and throwing crap around at 8 in the morning. |
You must be doing something terribly wrong, or you work at a terrible school.
I have few problems with my stuff. They don't throw things or cause major problems. There are exceptions, of course. I can control them. It takes practice, but really, if most of your students are misbehaving, it's probably at least partly your fault. |
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banjois
Joined: 14 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:25 am Post subject: |
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| decolyon wrote: |
No, they're 6 American age. My kids claim to be 8 in Korean age. That makes them at least 6 in international age. And a 6 year old that can't wipe is butt is pathetic. It's not his fault, it's the parent's and teacher's that never taught him to do it for himself by now.
Secondly, those things exist at your school. Regardless of where it is, all kids this age do those things. I'm not saying it's bad they do so, I'm just saying I can't really handle it. I want to pull my hair out each morning they come in yelling and throwing crap around at 8 in the morning. |
That's messed up. My six-year old (Korean age) kids know perfectly well that kinda stuff wouldn't fly for two seconds in my class.... |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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| decolyon wrote: |
| Secondly, those things exist at your school. Regardless of where it is, all kids this age do those things. I'm not saying it's bad they do so, I'm just saying I can't really handle it. I want to pull my hair out each morning they come in yelling and throwing crap around at 8 in the morning. |
No, they really don't. I have a kid throw something maybe once every three months. They fear my wrath. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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| decolyon wrote: |
No, they're 6 American age. My kids claim to be 8 in Korean age. That makes them at least 6 in international age. And a 6 year old that can't wipe is butt is pathetic. It's not his fault, it's the parent's and teacher's that never taught him to do it for himself by now. |
8 (Korean) years old and still at kindy? They should be in G1/G2.
Something is not adding up.
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interestedinhanguk
Joined: 23 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 12:30 am Post subject: |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
| decolyon wrote: |
No, they're 6 American age. My kids claim to be 8 in Korean age. That makes them at least 6 in international age. And a 6 year old that can't wipe is butt is pathetic. It's not his fault, it's the parent's and teacher's that never taught him to do it for himself by now. |
8 (Korean) years old and still at kindy? They should be in G1/G2.
Something is not adding up.
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Kids who were 7 (K-age) this past school year just turned 8 on New Year's Day. They are 8 now and will go to G1 next month. |
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megandadam
Joined: 28 Dec 2008
Location: toronto, canada
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i've had this at my school (kindy) as well.
it's not the teachers but it is certainly the korean staff and their parents.
we have an 8 year old or two in our kindy who just had their birthdays. going to grade 1 next month.
our korean teachers baby them, spoon feed them if they have a birthday party (with the same spoon i might add), and wipe their ass for some of them. it's ridiculous, and we've said it too many times to count but it doesn't have any effect. the parents pay a lot of money and the kids are all really rich.
it's my number 1 pet peeve about kindy - i understand that they're not actually 8 or 7 but at some point they need to learn to do that stuff on their own. i don't know maybe everyone else's kindy is different but at mine a lot of the stuff the OP said was pretty accurate.
sorry about spelling. |
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