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minos
Joined: 01 Dec 2010
Location: kOREA
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 Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:40 am Post subject: Boss says she'll blacklist me at immigration if I run |
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Is it possible.? She's using the old "I have a friend at immigration" and we'll apply to have you blacklisted.
However, I wonder if it's true and possible...another job wants me, but I may have to pull a runner.
She's trying to keep me here until she can hire a new teacher...however, that's unlikely and blackmail for starters. |
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thegadfly
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:43 am Post subject: |
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When does your visa expire?
Can they still do the "refusing a letter of release, thus forcing the teacher to wait until the visa expiry to start a new job" thing? |
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minos
Joined: 01 Dec 2010
Location: kOREA
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| Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:50 am Post subject: |
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I quit very earlier on...visa expires in 7 months.
She's at least offering a letter or release to try to coerce me to stay...
She's pretty rich and seems somewhat connected...but no politicians wife or anything...
The head teacher also claims he's successfully blacklisted teachers before(2!)...part of me says BS....but they are offering me some carrot if I wait it out 2 more months.. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:50 am Post subject: |
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| Next time she tells you that she has a friend at Immigration, tell her, "Let's go meet him right now and all of us can speak to the local Immigration office director!" No doubt her "friend" (supposing she does have one) at Immigration isn't interested in admitting to his boss that he'll carry out an illegal act for her. |
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minos
Joined: 01 Dec 2010
Location: kOREA
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| Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:57 am Post subject: |
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Is it illegal for a hagwon to hire non-degree holding gyopos for hagwon teaching and non-degree holding koreans as teachers?
Becuase mine does.... |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:10 am Post subject: |
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| minos wrote: |
Is it possible.? She's using the old "I have a friend at immigration" and we'll apply to have you blacklisted.
However, I wonder if it's true and possible...another job wants me, but I may have to pull a runner.
She's trying to keep me here until she can hire a new teacher...however, that's unlikely and blackmail for starters. |
She is blowing smoke out your ass. She can do no such thing (violation of the labor law) and immigration doesn't care as long as you haven't broken any laws. You are free to quit at your convenience.
What they can do is refuse to release you from the contract making it impossible for you to change employers without making a trip out of the country to cancel your visa and then another trip out to get a new visa.
| minos wrote: |
Is it illegal for a hagwon to hire non-degree holding gyopos for hagwon teaching and non-degree holding koreans as teachers?
Becuase mine does.... |
Yes, it is illegal to hire teachers who do not have a degree (Korean, gyopo or foreign).
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L&MaC's
Joined: 01 Jan 2011
Location: Ittoqqortoormiit
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| Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:38 am Post subject: |
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| What they can do is refuse to release you from the contract making it impossible for you to change employers without making a trip out of the country to cancel your visa and then another trip out to get a new visa. |
I don't think that works anymore.
Even if you leave the country now, when you come back your visa has NOT been cancelled - because there is no re-entry visa anymore. |
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BigBuds
Joined: 15 Sep 2005
Location: Changwon
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| Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:00 am Post subject: |
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| L&MaC's wrote: |
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| What they can do is refuse to release you from the contract making it impossible for you to change employers without making a trip out of the country to cancel your visa and then another trip out to get a new visa. |
I don't think that works anymore.
Even if you leave the country now, when you come back your visa has NOT been cancelled - because there is no re-entry visa anymore. |
You just need to hand in your ARC card at the immigration counter on your way out and ask them to cancel your visa. Re-entry permits have nothing to do with it. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:19 am Post subject: |
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| L&MaC's wrote: |
| ttompatz wrote: |
| What they can do is refuse to release you from the contract making it impossible for you to change employers without making a trip out of the country to cancel your visa and then another trip out to get a new visa. |
I don't think that works anymore.
Even if you leave the country now, when you come back your visa has NOT been cancelled - because there is no re-entry visa anymore. |
Turn in the ARC - you are no longer registered and your visa is canceled.
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offtheoche
Joined: 21 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:36 am Post subject: |
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She is blowing smoke out your ass. She can do no such thing (violation of the labor law) and immigration doesn't care as long as you haven't broken any laws. |
Correct BUT believe it or not it HAS happened before. Last week I went to renew my passport at a certain embassy, and one of the diplomats was telling me how this exact same situation happened to a fellow citizen. End result was the embassy were called from the airport after the guy was unable to exit due to his hagwon boss getting in touch with immi saying he had broken his contract.
All the embassy could do was recommend a lawyer for the guy and the diplomat did NOT follow up on the final outcome. (the guy did miss his flight)
Be careful guys and gals. 
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TheresaTheresa
Joined: 24 Feb 2010
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| Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:07 am Post subject: |
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| minos wrote: |
Is it illegal for a hagwon to hire non-degree holding gyopos for hagwon teaching and non-degree holding koreans as teachers?
Becuase mine does.... |
Last place I worked at did as well. |
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TheresaTheresa
Joined: 24 Feb 2010
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| Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:17 am Post subject: |
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| offtheoche wrote: |
| ttompatz wrote: |
She is blowing smoke out your ass. She can do no such thing (violation of the labor law) and immigration doesn't care as long as you haven't broken any laws. |
Correct BUT believe it or not it HAS happened before. Last week I went to renew my visa at a certain embassy, and one of the diplomats was telling me how this exact same situation happened to a fellow citizen. End result was the embassy were called from the airport after the guy was unable to exit due to his hagwon boss getting in touch with immi saying he had broken his contract.
All the embassy could do was recommend a lawyer for the guy and the diplomat did NOT follow up on the final outcome. (the guy did miss his flight)
Be careful guys and gals. |
That is odd.
I have broken a few contracts and immigration has never given me a problem when leaving. I have had trouble with the E2 process thereafter but once old E2s expire (or hit the 8-month mark) that has been the end of a dodgey/influential Korean employer's (you know who you are  ) or a scorned hagwon boss' ( again, you know who you are ) ability to restrict my getting a new visa.
Having said that, many in Korea are quite young and should have an ISIC card or be able to procure one before going to Korea to last the duration of your (usually) one-year sojourn. The value in this is you can get super cheap student tkts which can be changed etc without much trouble and can absorb issues like missed flights etc.
Aaah, Korea. You've given me so many interesting stories to tell... 
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diver
Joined: 16 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:42 am Post subject: |
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| offtheoche wrote: |
| ttompatz wrote: |
She is blowing smoke out your ass. She can do no such thing (violation of the labor law) and immigration doesn't care as long as you haven't broken any laws. |
Correct BUT believe it or not it HAS happened before. Last week I went to renew my passport at a certain embassy, and one of the diplomats was telling me how this exact same situation happened to a fellow citizen. End result was the embassy were called from the airport after the guy was unable to exit due to his hagwon boss getting in touch with immi saying he had broken his contract.
All the embassy could do was recommend a lawyer for the guy and the diplomat did NOT follow up on the final outcome. (the guy did miss his flight)
Be careful guys and gals. |
Sorry. I have to call BS. YOU might not be lying, but the story you were told is not true. You cannot be held for breaking a contract. |
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Vix
Joined: 18 Jun 2010
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:02 am Post subject: |
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Tell the bint that blacklisting works both ways and you'll be sure to tell every forum you can find just how good her school is to it's workers  |
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minos
Joined: 01 Dec 2010
Location: kOREA
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| Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:03 am Post subject: |
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Can anyone link me to the relevant english version(or Korean if possible) of korean labor law.
And who can I call to report the hiring of illegal teachers and the relevant labor laws regarding that? |
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