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vonnegutjr



Joined: 24 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:28 pm    Post subject: Korean English Conversation Teachers Reply with quote

Anyone know what their contract is like? I was wondering about vacation and duties. The Korean teacher who should teach English conversation at my school just teaches regular classes and always leaves early. Just curious...
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tanklor1



Joined: 13 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure. But I've learned from experience that it's best not to poke around in other people's business. Wouldn't make a big deal out of it.
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lowpo



Joined: 01 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Korean English Conversation Teachers Reply with quote

vonnegutjr wrote:
Anyone know what their contract is like? I was wondering about vacation and duties. The Korean teacher who should teach English conversation at my school just teaches regular classes and always leaves early. Just curious...


The conversation teacher at my school attends classes with me. She doesn't leave early or arrives late for classes. When the Korean teachers have classes, she takes the mid-level students.
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lowpo



Joined: 01 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Korean English Conversation Teachers Reply with quote

lowpo wrote:
vonnegutjr wrote:
Anyone know what their contract is like? I was wondering about vacation and duties. The Korean teacher who should teach English conversation at my school just teaches regular classes and always leaves early. Just curious...


The conversation teacher at my school attends classes with me. She doesn't leave early or arrives late for classes. When the Korean teachers have classes, she takes the mid-level students.


I forgot to add that she puts together all the tests and does most of the paper work.
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lifeinkorea



Joined: 24 Jan 2009
Location: somewhere in China

PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lowpo, you know, you can just update your posts. You don't have to make a new reply.

vonnegutjr, it's none of your business. For all you know, this Korean teacher is working part-time. It wouldn't matter if it was full-time, Korean teachers have very different arrangements and responsibilities than native English speakers.
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Milwaukiedave



Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong

PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 5:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unless the Korean teacher is a regular employee, the truth is she or he is probably getting paid crap regardless of whether they are full or par-time. My wife teaches English in a public school and is required to stay at school from 8:40-4:40 everyday and gets two weeks of vacation a year. The schools are hiring more temp Korean teachers (on a year to year contract like native speakers) these days.
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Jimskins



Joined: 07 Nov 2007

PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My wife is one of these English Conversation teachers at a middle school in Seoul. She basically is treated as a regular teacher in that she can go home when they go home (i.e. when the Vice-Prinicipal goes home). The pay is roughly the same as a native teacher, after tax not much more than 2 million a month, so the Education office encourages them to teach after-school classes as well. My wife teaches two of these each day and it bumps up her salary to just over 3 million a month.

However the word from the Education Office is that they are not going to hire many more of these teachers, and from next year only for Elementary schools. My wife says the word on the street is that the Education Office is finally giving up on the idea that the after-school programmes and English conversation classes will ever be able to replace, let alone compete with, the Hogwans.
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lifeinkorea



Joined: 24 Jan 2009
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Education Office is finally giving up on the idea that the after-school programmes and English conversation classes will ever be able to replace, let alone compete with, the Hogwans.


The idea is good, but the problem is that there isn't an "owner" or principal. They use organizations to manage teachers in and out of Seoul. So, basically, this amounts to farming out teachers to different schools even though each teacher may stay at one school.

I think it is a good idea if they combine math and science classes with English. The main reason why students go to hagwons instead is that they can get a better deal than only going to afterschool now, getting just English.

The organization managing the teachers is like a person manipulating a marionette doll. They don't have a close interest with the students. Principals on the other hand have to be out shaking parents' hands, bowing, and pretending to be interested between classes. The hagwon owner often has the money to get someone to "train" and invest their money, so that person or a poor hagwon owner will be directly involved working with the daily goings on of the school.

As long as they think with an English only approach, there will not be an adequate afterschool program. They are not even trying to be like a hagwon or compete at the same level. It's all set up to be a latchkey program instead. Babysitting at best.
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