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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 8:33 am    Post subject: Man fined $5,200 for growing cucumbers in basement Reply with quote

In case you needed another reason to end the war on drugs.

Man fined $5,200 for growing cucumbers in basement

Wednesday, January 12, 2011 by: Ethan A. Huff, staff writer


(NaturalNews) Mission, British Columbia, resident Len Gratto recently experienced the wrath of local city officials who fined him $5,200 for growing cucumbers in his basement. Under current laws, municipal regulators are permitted to enter premises on suspicion that a homeowner is illegally growing marijuana -- and even if no pot is found, they can levy the fines anyway.

"It's upsetting they can do this," explained Gratto to The Province. "We were growing cucumbers in the basement because they wouldn't take outside."

Several other area residents have been wrongly targeted by officials and levied fines for engaging in legal activities as well, including Stacy Gowanlock who was order to pay roughly $10,000 in fees and "repair orders" because investigators found traces of "dirt" in her basement and "a furnace pipe going up into the chimney, where it should be."

The grow-op bylaw programs used to search properties on the marijuana suspicions state that municipal inspectors can enter homes simply because they use excessive amounts of water. Once inside, there is no requirement that inspectors find any actual evidence of marijuana -- they are free to levy fines if they determine the presence of what they determine to be "residual" evidence, such as soil or even high mold counts. And if residents fail to comply with the unreasonable orders, they could have their house deemed unsafe and unsellable by local officials.

Gratto, Gowanlock and others have signed on to a class-action lawsuit that says such searches are a violation of citizens' rights. The entire process is a scam, say residents, and they would like to see the program eliminated.

Councilwoman Jenny Stevens told reporters that she no longer supports the program, despite supporting it initially, because at least half of those inspected are innocent. But in the end, they still end up having to pay lofty fines and suffer the embarrassment of having their homes raided as if they were illicit drug dealers, which is ultimately doing more harm than good.
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Captain Corea



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hope they win the suit.
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conrad2



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What are the Canadian laws regarding illegal search and seizure? Stronger or weaker than those in the USA?
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Junior



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Home of the free.
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Captain Corea



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Junior wrote:
Home of the free.
Perhaps you are confusing countries?
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGLL_enKR304KR304&q=hoe+of+the+free#sclient=psy&hl=en&rlz=1T4GGLL_enKR304KR304&q=%22home+of+the+free%22&aq=f&aqi=p-p1g3g-o1&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&fp=c54a387f1a6b9521
That particular saying belongs to Canada's southern neighbor if I'm not mistaken.
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Koreadays



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the police are looking for money to they can stay in business. now they are being sued , so now lawyers need to be paid, and who is paying for all this?
seems like a win win for the government.
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ThingsComeAround



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
Hope they win the suit.


I wonder why you feel that way.
Is there something wrong with growing food inside one's own home?
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Steelrails



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm in favor of these raids by the government. By all means, take down the criminals.

I also feel that if the government raids an innocent person, that person should get 10 million in compensation plus the officers should be thrown in prison on two-year felony charges for breaking and entering, vandalism, assault, etc.
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UknowsI



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There must be something to this case which is not covered. I don't believe that these people have done nothing wrong. Is it legal to grow cucumbers inside? If growing cucumbers inside can cause the house to rot or other tenants to get sick the fines are perfectly reasonable. It has to be something like that.
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caniff



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Growing cucumbers in your basement.....who does that?
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Steelrails



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

caniff wrote:
Growing cucumbers in your basement.....who does that?


Derek Smalls?
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caniff



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Is that a cucumber growing in your basement or are you just happy to see me?"
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Captain Corea



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Gratto, Gowanlock and others have signed on to a class-action lawsuit that says such searches are a violation of citizens' rights. The entire process is a scam, say residents, and they would like to see the program eliminated.


Captain Corea wrote:
Hope they win the suit.


ThingsComeAround wrote:

I wonder why you feel that way.
Is there something wrong with growing food inside one's own home?


I am supporting their right to grow crops in their home.
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caniff



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
I am supporting their right to grow crops in their home.


Including the ganja?
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Captain Corea



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

caniff wrote:
Captain Corea wrote:
I am supporting their right to grow crops in their home.


Including the ganja?


That wasn't part of my original comment... but if pressed, I'm of the mind for legalization of it. I've never used it, but I can't imagine it'd be any worse for people than alcohol and tobacco (both of which are <still> legal in Canada).
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