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Carl_00



Joined: 18 May 2009

PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 10:21 am    Post subject: UK CRC: Apostille? Reply with quote

Hello people,

I need to get my Criminal Background Check apostilled, how exactly do I do this? Although I barely even know what it actually is... Confused

Cheers.
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fl4mers



Joined: 26 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

First you need to make sure that your CRB certificate has a stamp and signature on it from Disclosure Scotland (assuming you got your CRB from Disclosure Scotland), which authenticates it for Apostille and counts as a notarisation for Korean Immigration.

Then you have two ways of getting it Apostilled a) by post or b) in person.

Directions by post:

1) Go online and pay for your document to be legalised (currently �34.80)

Website: http://www.fco.gov.uk/en/about-us/what-we-do/services-we-deliver/legal-services/legalisation/by-post

2) Print out the receipt and send your CRB with the receipt to the Legalisation office at:

The Legalisation Office
Norfolk House (West)
437 Silbury Boulevard
Milton Keynes
MK9 2AH

I advise you to send it registered. It will usually take them 48 hours from the date they receive it to legalise the document. However, it can take longer if there was a recent public holiday, so check the legalisation webpage for updates.


Directions in person (Milton Keynes):

1) Go into the legalisation office, take a ticket, queue to hand in your documents and pay for the legalisation (�28.80) and then wait anywhere between 20 and 90 minutes for your document to be apostilled.

Good Luck! Smile


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Carl_00



Joined: 18 May 2009

PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the response.

Yes, my certificate is already stamped and signed from Disclosure Scotland and I won't be travelling down to MK so, by the post it is! But must I do both steps? Send it to a solicitors and then send it to the legalisation office? Or can't I just send it to the legalisation office?

Side note: Someone's having a laugh at the price of this process, �35 for stamping some paper! Rolling Eyes
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fl4mers



Joined: 26 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EDIT

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Junior



Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: the eye

PostPosted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 1:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're in korea, just go to the embassy in seoul. They will notarise it.
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David Gerrington



Joined: 20 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does the criminal cheeck definetly need the stamp and signature from Disclosure Scotland? What is it needed for?

I've just got mine through without any stamp or signature on it Sad
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presson



Joined: 10 Feb 2009

PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you sure Korean Immigration won't accept a CRC that hasn't been notarised by a solicitor? Even if it's been signed and sealed by a recognised signatory? The FCO said that they'd apostille my Disclosure Scotland Cert as long as it was signed and sealed. And isn't the apostille the most important?
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presson



Joined: 10 Feb 2009

PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isn't an apostille just like an international notarization?

What is an Apostille/Authentication?
APOSTILLE: an international notarization usually issued by the state secretary�s office (US) or department of foreign affairs (other countries).
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schneider_w



Joined: 29 Jun 2010
Location: London, UK

PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fl4mers wrote:
You definitely need to send it to a solicitor before you send it to the FCO. The FCO will Apostille the document without the certification, but Korean immigration will NOT accept it if you don't have the certification done.

One of the official E-2 visa requirements is to have a notarised criminal background check. (Luckily Korean immigration hasn't clocked on to the fact that the certification is actually different to notarisation in the UK, because otherwise you'd be paying �75 for the document to be notarised instead of �5-10 for it to just be certified by a solicitor!)

So yeah...don't skip that step because you'll just have to get a new CRB when immigration rejects your first copy if you do.

p.s. It's �35 for a stamp AND a piece of paper! :p But yeah...the whole visa business is expensive business... just you wait until you get your UPS/DHL/Fedex bill through at �45 or so after already spending your money on 2 Apostilles and your transcripts -_- I think I paid almost �200 for all my docs including travel costs to MK... :/ I have a job now though so it was worth it... (or at least I think it will be... I start in 3 weeks haha!)


Do you need to send it to a solicitor before sending it off to FCO if Disclosure Scotland has notarized it for you? I thought the point in getting this done was so that you didn't have to get a solicitor to sign it?

If so, does anyone know of a solicitor in London who will sign it for less than �65?! That seems to be the minimum quote I've found....such a rip-off!
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David Gerrington



Joined: 20 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

schneider_w wrote:
fl4mers wrote:
You definitely need to send it to a solicitor before you send it to the FCO. The FCO will Apostille the document without the certification, but Korean immigration will NOT accept it if you don't have the certification done.

One of the official E-2 visa requirements is to have a notarised criminal background check. (Luckily Korean immigration hasn't clocked on to the fact that the certification is actually different to notarisation in the UK, because otherwise you'd be paying �75 for the document to be notarised instead of �5-10 for it to just be certified by a solicitor!)

So yeah...don't skip that step because you'll just have to get a new CRB when immigration rejects your first copy if you do.

p.s. It's �35 for a stamp AND a piece of paper! :p But yeah...the whole visa business is expensive business... just you wait until you get your UPS/DHL/Fedex bill through at �45 or so after already spending your money on 2 Apostilles and your transcripts -_- I think I paid almost �200 for all my docs including travel costs to MK... :/ I have a job now though so it was worth it... (or at least I think it will be... I start in 3 weeks haha!)


Do you need to send it to a solicitor before sending it off to FCO if Disclosure Scotland has notarized it for you? I thought the point in getting this done was so that you didn't have to get a solicitor to sign it?

If so, does anyone know of a solicitor in London who will sign it for less than �65?! That seems to be the minimum quote I've found....such a rip-off!


Would also like to know the answer to this if possible. Just sent my criminal check back to Disclosure Scotland to stamp and sign for me.
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fl4mers



Joined: 26 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok guys, I'm going to make a HUGE formal apology here, as I just realised reading back my last posts that I made a bit of a mess of the situation. I went to MK with both my degree and my CRB, so I was getting those two mixed up! Don't hit me please! -_-;;

So here is the correction:

If you got your Criminal Background Check from Disclosure Scotland, and you got it stamped and signed by their signatory, you DO NOT have to get it signed by a solicitor before sending it off. The signature and stamp will be considered equal to a notarisation and will be enough for immigration as well as the FCO.

If, however, you got a criminal check from your local police station (the �10 one) you will need to get it notarised by a solicitor, if the FCO or immigration is to accept it.

The copy of your degree certificate is what will need to be certified as real by a solicitor before being accepted by the FCO and immigration.

Once again sorry for the confusion and I hope you guys can get things sorted now! Embarassed
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fezmond



Joined: 27 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

schneider_w wrote:
fl4mers wrote:
You definitely need to send it to a solicitor before you send it to the FCO. The FCO will Apostille the document without the certification, but Korean immigration will NOT accept it if you don't have the certification done.

One of the official E-2 visa requirements is to have a notarised criminal background check. (Luckily Korean immigration hasn't clocked on to the fact that the certification is actually different to notarisation in the UK, because otherwise you'd be paying �75 for the document to be notarised instead of �5-10 for it to just be certified by a solicitor!)

So yeah...don't skip that step because you'll just have to get a new CRB when immigration rejects your first copy if you do.

p.s. It's �35 for a stamp AND a piece of paper! :p But yeah...the whole visa business is expensive business... just you wait until you get your UPS/DHL/Fedex bill through at �45 or so after already spending your money on 2 Apostilles and your transcripts -_- I think I paid almost �200 for all my docs including travel costs to MK... :/ I have a job now though so it was worth it... (or at least I think it will be... I start in 3 weeks haha!)


Do you need to send it to a solicitor before sending it off to FCO if Disclosure Scotland has notarized it for you? I thought the point in getting this done was so that you didn't have to get a solicitor to sign it?

If so, does anyone know of a solicitor in London who will sign it for less than �65?! That seems to be the minimum quote I've found....such a rip-off!


i got it for 5 quid in london, and took 5 mins (solicitor signing/notarizing my crb). i'll reply later when i get home to let you know where it was done but hopefully you'll be able to avoid paying 65 elsewhere.
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fezmond



Joined: 27 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i believe it was Kidd Rapinet solicitors - craven street in london. a 5 min walk from trafalgar square and they did it for a fiver
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Carl_00



Joined: 18 May 2009

PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fl4mers, anything beaurocratic like this crap is bound to get one muddled Laughing.

Regarding the receipt for the postal process, you might not know because you did yours in person, but, I've just made my online payment and, as of yet, have only received a short e-mail containing my order number and confirmation of my payment. Is this the receipt I should print and send off?
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fl4mers



Joined: 26 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup, that's the receipt you print off and send to them, because it should have your confirmation number on it.

Funnily enough, I actually started doing mine by post but then found out that due to a major holiday it was going to be delayed by 2-3 days, so I headed up on a bus to Milton Keynes because I had to get my degree Apostilled anyways. They were kind enough to fish it out of the mail and do it on the spot for me (and refund my �6 mailing fee yay!). The only reason they could do that though was because I had sent it in via Special Delivery, which meant there was a sticker with a tracking number on the envelope...they apparently get hundred plus requests a day, so that was lucky!

Good luck with all your documents though! Smile
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