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whiteshoes



Joined: 14 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 9:25 pm    Post subject: Public to Private Pension Reply with quote

I'm moving from the public to private pension in March. Do I still need to show a flight ticket out of the country to collect my money? I plan on buying a cheap ticket, and never using it if need be- I'll spend 300 to get 3000.

I will be renewing my current visa, so I assume I need to go to the pension office before filing this paperwork, correct?

Any other help would be great.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Public to Private Pension Reply with quote

whiteshoes wrote:
I'm moving from the public to private pension in March. Do I still need to show a flight ticket out of the country to collect my money? I plan on buying a cheap ticket, and never using it if need be- I'll spend 300 to get 3000.

I will be renewing my current visa, so I assume I need to go to the pension office before filing this paperwork, correct?

Any other help would be great.


You can't do it if you are keeping the same visa (they check to confirm that your visa has actually expired/been canceled) and that (by inference since you no longer have a valid visa) you did depart.

If you are getting a new visa it can be done without problem on a simple exit and return trip.

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whiteshoes



Joined: 14 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So the fact that I'm changing away from the public pension does me no good in this regard?

That's too bad.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

whiteshoes wrote:
So the fact that I'm changing away from the public pension does me no good in this regard?

That's too bad.


It just sits until you get old or leave - just like your government pension back home. (SSS or CPP depending on where you are from).

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zappadelta



Joined: 31 Aug 2004

PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hm, I believe that this is one of the few cases (changing from public to private) where you are allowed to get your pension out without leaving the country. I did this is 2007, when I switched from an elementary school to a university that was on the private pension scheme. I can't remember the details (what docs you need, etc.), but I do know it's possible because I did it.
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whiteshoes



Joined: 14 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, I suppose I'll give the pension office a call.

I'll let ya'll know what happens. This is one of the few times I hope ttompatz is wrong Smile
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 4:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

zappadelta wrote:
Hm, I believe that this is one of the few cases (changing from public to private) where you are allowed to get your pension out without leaving the country. I did this is 2007, when I switched from an elementary school to a university that was on the private pension scheme. I can't remember the details (what docs you need, etc.), but I do know it's possible because I did it.


Did you do a visa run and come back on a new visa?

If yes, then you met the criteria for a refund.
IF no, then I too would love to hear the details for future reference.

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zappadelta



Joined: 31 Aug 2004

PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
zappadelta wrote:
Hm, I believe that this is one of the few cases (changing from public to private) where you are allowed to get your pension out without leaving the country. I did this is 2007, when I switched from an elementary school to a university that was on the private pension scheme. I can't remember the details (what docs you need, etc.), but I do know it's possible because I did it.


Did you do a visa run and come back on a new visa?

If yes, then you met the criteria for a refund.
IF no, then I too would love to hear the details for future reference.

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Hi, no, I didn't do a visa run. I just got the letter of release from my elementary school and my visa was just updated at the immigration office by my new university (kept the same alien card and all, just looked like they added a new workplace (the new uni) on the back of the card). I still have the same alien card to this day, originally issued to me in 1995, although it's just about out of spots on the back of the card. I haven't done a visa run since 2005.

I got the lump sum (about 6 mil won at that time - from 1 year hagwon and 2 years elem school) deposited in my account, and started the new pension program at the university.

Ah, almost forgot, when I went to the pension office, I needed a simple letter from the new uni stating that I am now working there, and that they have a private pension system.

**edit** keep in mind this was in 2007, eons ago as far as visas, pension, immigration matters go
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whiteshoes



Joined: 14 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Update. The pension office in Yonsan told me no dice. I may try my luck at a different office, I'm not sure it will help.
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bigpun



Joined: 16 May 2007

PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[/qoute]Hi, no, I didn't do a visa run. I just got the letter of release from my elementary school and my visa was just updated at the immigration office by my new university (kept the same alien card and all, just looked like they added a new workplace (the new uni) on the back of the card). I still have the same alien card to this day, originally issued to me in 1995, although it's just about out of spots on the back of the card. I haven't done a visa run since 2005.

I got the lump sum (about 6 mil won at that time - from 1 year hagwon and 2 years elem school) deposited in my account, and started the new pension program at the university.

Ah, almost forgot, when I went to the pension office, I needed a simple letter from the new uni stating that I am now working there, and that they have a private pension system.

**edit** keep in mind this was in 2007, eons ago as far as visas, pension, immigration matters go[/quote]

White Shoes, ZD and all, I checked with the Pension helpline (02 2176 8700) and they said that changing pensions schemes is not a valid reason for giving out the lump sum refund any more. The law changed in 2006, apparently.

Whiteshoes, I am in the same position, so I am going to try and beat the system. I am planning to buy a one way ticket and take that in to the pension office and apply for my lump-sum refund there, sent to my Korean account. Then I'll change the ticket to a return. I'll go to Immigration and sort out my visa transfer to my new employer after I get back from my short vacation. Hopefully, I will satisfy the requirement of leaving the country, and when the pension office confirms this the refund will be released. By going to immigration after my return, there should be no way the Pension office will be made aware of my new visa. Maybe this will work? I already have a multiple reentry visa good until the end of my current E2, and I will return to Korea before it expires, so I hope I will have no issues with immigration at the the airport (but to be safe I always travel with a copy of my employment documents).
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zappadelta



Joined: 31 Aug 2004

PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bigpun wrote:
[/qoute]Hi, no, I didn't do a visa run. I just got the letter of release from my elementary school and my visa was just updated at the immigration office by my new university (kept the same alien card and all, just looked like they added a new workplace (the new uni) on the back of the card). I still have the same alien card to this day, originally issued to me in 1995, although it's just about out of spots on the back of the card. I haven't done a visa run since 2005.

I got the lump sum (about 6 mil won at that time - from 1 year hagwon and 2 years elem school) deposited in my account, and started the new pension program at the university.

Ah, almost forgot, when I went to the pension office, I needed a simple letter from the new uni stating that I am now working there, and that they have a private pension system.

**edit** keep in mind this was in 2007, eons ago as far as visas, pension, immigration matters go


White Shoes, ZD and all, I checked with the Pension helpline (02 2176 8700) and they said that changing pensions schemes is not a valid reason for giving out the lump sum refund any more. The law changed in 2006, apparently.

Whiteshoes, I am in the same position, so I am going to try and beat the system. I am planning to buy a one way ticket and take that in to the pension office and apply for my lump-sum refund there, sent to my Korean account. Then I'll change the ticket to a return. I'll go to Immigration and sort out my visa transfer to my new employer after I get back from my short vacation. Hopefully, I will satisfy the requirement of leaving the country, and when the pension office confirms this the refund will be released. By going to immigration after my return, there should be no way the Pension office will be made aware of my new visa. Maybe this will work? I already have a multiple reentry visa good until the end of my current E2, and I will return to Korea before it expires, so I hope I will have no issues with immigration at the the airport (but to be safe I always travel with a copy of my employment documents).[/quote]





That's too bad. Like I said, it was around March of 2007 when I did that, and it was really nice. I wonder why they changed it.
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