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Anyone else getting raped on taxes this month?
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jdog2050



Joined: 17 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 6:24 pm    Post subject: Anyone else getting raped on taxes this month? Reply with quote

Uh...so apparently something changed in the housing laws last year, my last school forgot to make the change, and this year I'm paying 900,000W in taxes? I've never had to pay this much tax in Korea and it's infuriating. A friend of mine had to pay 2,000,000. What the hell is going on?
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tokkibunni8



Joined: 13 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I paid over 900k for the year hoping to get a good chunk back, but NOPE! A whole whopping 43k back. I called bull**** on that, but what can I do?
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Jerry Todd



Joined: 15 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the last 2 years taxes were deducted from salary and near the end of each contract i got a large portion back.

this year, i apparently have to pay 750,000. apparently, not taxes were taken off my monthly salary.

btw, i'm canadian and i thought we had a tax treaty with south korea. meaning that you would pax taxes, but get a large portion back upon completion of a contract.
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Lastrova



Joined: 30 Dec 2010

PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm paying an extra 600,000 Won. Last year, there were several months where I wasn't getting taxed at all. I asked the office admin, but they said "don't worry!" Yeesh.
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oldfatfarang



Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: On the road to somewhere.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just got whacked 751,000 on my final pay. Ouch!


Good luck.
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lifeinkorea



Joined: 24 Jan 2009
Location: somewhere in China

PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

900 = 75/month = 3.5 percent of a 2.1 million won salary

I don't see the problem. Based on the following site, it says 5-10% http://www.eslelite.com/biz/info_korea_Income%20Tax.htm
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Ramen



Joined: 15 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i love taxes. i paid about 2 million in taxes last year and just found out i have to pay about 500K more. love it!!!! Razz
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nathanrutledge



Joined: 01 May 2008
Location: Marakesh

PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was a change in the way housing and airfare are calculated. Before, they were not taxed. Now, they are considered part of your pay, and you're taxed on them. That being said, I'd only pay tax on another 400k a month (or whatever the housing allowance is), and the tax rate is not 5-10%, it's between 2-3% (unless you're making serious money, which none of us are). Thus, on 5.8 mil won (assuming 400k per month, plus 1 mil total for airfare), you should be paying 116,000 - 174,000.

So, to expand the example if you make 2.0, you should be paying 596-894k a year. If you're pulling in 2.5, you should be paying 716-1,074k per year.

In conclusion, OP, it sounds like you have to pay ALL of your taxes in one lump sum.

If you're interested, go to the National Tax Service website and do some research. There is a handy tax calculator and lots of explanations in fairly coherent English. www.nts.go.kr
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OculisOrbis



Joined: 17 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lifeinkorea wrote:
900 = 75/month = 3.5 percent of a 2.1 million won salary

I don't see the problem. Based on the following site, it says 5-10% http://www.eslelite.com/biz/info_korea_Income%20Tax.htm


The problem is that that site is wrong.

Calculate your monthly withholding here:
http://www.nts.go.kr/eng/help/help_56.asp?top_code=H001&sub_code=HS05&ssub_code=HSE4

28 390W for tax each month on 2.1 salary. That's 1.35%. Higher salaries will have higher percentage tax rates.
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nukeday



Joined: 13 May 2010

PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My school came up asking me for any credit card receipts. What? Should I be keeping a receipt for every time I use my KEB Visa check card?
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Ramen



Joined: 15 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nukeday wrote:
My school came up asking me for any credit card receipts. What? Should I be keeping a receipt for every time I use my KEB Visa check card?


no. KEB should've sent you a year end statement last month. if you didn't get one, stop at a brach office and ask for one. Razz
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jdog2050



Joined: 17 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nathanrutledge wrote:
There was a change in the way housing and airfare are calculated. Before, they were not taxed. Now, they are considered part of your pay, and you're taxed on them. That being said, I'd only pay tax on another 400k a month (or whatever the housing allowance is), and the tax rate is not 5-10%, it's between 2-3% (unless you're making serious money, which none of us are). Thus, on 5.8 mil won (assuming 400k per month, plus 1 mil total for airfare), you should be paying 116,000 - 174,000.

So, to expand the example if you make 2.0, you should be paying 596-894k a year. If you're pulling in 2.5, you should be paying 716-1,074k per year.

In conclusion, OP, it sounds like you have to pay ALL of your taxes in one lump sum.

If you're interested, go to the National Tax Service website and do some research. There is a handy tax calculator and lots of explanations in fairly coherent English. www.nts.go.kr


Yep, this is exactly what happened, I'm finding out.

I'm so livid right now I could fucking scream.

It was ACTUALLY 1.4 million, but luckily I'm in grad school so it got knocked down to 854,000. I still have not added in my credit/debit card statement and some medical work I had done, but I'm not counting on that number even being cut by half.

The next three months are some of the most financially important I've ever had in Korea and now THIS fucking happens. unbelievable.

Edit: Ok, I checked out the site and got the "easy deduction" pdf. Looking through it, I wonder how much my credit card usage and medical transactions are going to knock off. I'm actually getting a negative number for the medical deduction, which I'm assuming is going to basically be a non-deductible because it's so small. I'm just not sure right now. Freaking me out yo.


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Ramen



Joined: 15 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jdog2050 wrote:

The next three months are some of the most financially important I've ever had in Korea and now THIS fucking happens. unbelievable.


when it rains, it pours. Razz

sorry dude.
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Andyc24_uk



Joined: 21 May 2007

PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The problem is that there are 2 ways of calculating tax - you can opt for a flat 15% (which is entirely pointless unless you're earning several hundred million won a year) or regular taxation. For some people, year-end taxes have been wrongly calculated using the 15% method, which throws up numbers of several million won - Employers then panic because you've only been paying about 80,000 a month (correctly, at the lower rate) - and they then demand the difference.

Most employers have probably just screwed up; a handful are doubtless doing it deliberately and pocketing the difference. If you're affected by this, use the link a couple of posts above. Type in all your income for the past year. If you've not completed a full year yet, only enter the amount you've actually received so far - don't worry about future earnings. Unless you have kids or investments in Korea, you probably don't qualify for most of the allowances, so don't sweat it too much if you don't understand them all. Try both methods and look at the difference.

Then print off the whole thing, with the lower amount, and either show it to your employer or, if they won't play ball, take it to the tax office, ideally with a Korean friend for translation help. Chances are you'll only have to pay an extra 150,000 or so - some people may even get a rebate if they've overpaid.
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NYC_Gal 2.0



Joined: 10 Dec 2010

PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My school asked me for my credit card receipts as well. I only use American cards, so told them that I could order the reports, but it would take a few months because the credit card companies in America aren't accustomed to this, and are very busy so it would take time.

They said forget about it Wink

Why do they ask for receipts, by the way? They didn't ask me last year.

EDIT: I'm only in my second year, so I don't have to pay taxes yet.


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