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chaz47
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 Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 10:39 am Post subject: No more F-5, but F-2 is available without K spouse? |
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I found this
http://lifeinkorea.kr/xe/legal_board/1388
Is this what I think it is? No more F-5 but only F-2, and no spousal requirement for it. You have to make 80 points to be able to apply. The chart is a bit mystifying though. What is this "social integration program"? |
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Whistleblower
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| Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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| That seems to be good news. |
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languistic
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DHC
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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| The F-2 availability via the point system was announced some time ago. The F-5 is still available. |
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ttompatz
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Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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and if you are a foreigner and not married to or supporting Korean dependents you will NOT get it - regardless of what you hear or read.
Been there, jumped through the hoops and in the end was flat out told (by several officers in the immigration office) that it would never happen.
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xpat
Joined: 13 Mar 2008
Location: Kangnam baby
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OK. Let's say you get the points for F-2 and want to change it to F-5, which you can do:
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○ If a person reside in Korea for 3 years after obtaining residence status(F-2) status through Point System, he/she will be eligible to apply for changing his/her status into permanent residence status(F-5)
※ Current F-2 status holders are required to reside in Korea for 5 years. |
The catch is this:
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| ○ There may be a certain level of screening process such as field investigation and etc. before permitting the change of status into the permanent residence status. |
Immi Officer: Sorry, but you cannot get F-5
You: Why. I have an F-2 and have been here more than 5 years.
I.O.: Yes. But you fail investigation. sorry
You: What!? What did you find out?
I.O.: Sorry. Cannot say. Korean law. Sorry. Bye bye. |
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misher
Joined: 14 Oct 2008
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I know a few guys that will be applying this fall for their F-2. They both easily clear the 80 point requirement and have played by the rules. (same job, same address, have not even left Korea, didn't break any laws etc)/ Now they are not married nor have any dependents that are Korean. They are banking on getting this visa so they can move forward with their careers. It would be a shame if this f-2 point process is nothing more than a bunch of bs.
We will see.
Does anyone out there hve an F-2 through the points systems and is NOT MARRIED? |
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Oliver
Joined: 19 Apr 2008
Location: Seoul, Korea
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Getting an F-2 doesn't seem impossible. On paper, I certainly would be in with a shout.
I take it things aren't quite as easy as they look on paper though? |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Oliver wrote: |
Getting an F-2 doesn't seem impossible. On paper, I certainly would be in with a shout.
I take it things aren't quite as easy as they look on paper though? |
Since to my knowledge no one (with the requisites for being accepted) has actually tried getting in this way...I would guess that the only thing to do is to try and see. |
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bigtexas
Joined: 30 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 2:49 am Post subject: Re: No more F-5, but F-2 is available without K spouse? |
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| chaz47 wrote: |
I found this
http://lifeinkorea.kr/xe/legal_board/1388
Is this what I think it is? No more F-5 but only F-2, and no spousal requirement for it. You have to make 80 points to be able to apply. The chart is a bit mystifying though. What is this "social integration program"? |
This is retarded...I went yesterday to apply for my f5 with no problems and was told I will 100% get my visa. I just have to wait for two months because there are an overwhelming amoung of chinese, cambodian, etc wanting to get one...causing the process to be clogged up....
cheers to never going back to La migra again!
Also, why is it that all non-fvisa people are wanting to get the F2??? Eventhough the site says that immigration is opening it up to people who meet certain standards....no one will ever get an f2 unless they are married! I know a guy who works as a public officer at the immigration office and he laughs when he hears stuff like this. These laws are also not "federal" and can only be applicable if the certain province agrees to it. |
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Changwon Charlie
Joined: 22 Aug 2009
Location: Changwon
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| Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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| misher wrote: |
I know a few guys that will be applying this fall for their F-2. They both easily clear the 80 point requirement and have played by the rules. (same job, same address, have not even left Korea, didn't break any laws etc)/ Now they are not married nor have any dependents that are Korean. They are banking on getting this visa so they can move forward with their careers. It would be a shame if this f-2 point process is nothing more than a bunch of bs.
We will see. |
All I can say is good luck. I don't want to discourage anyone but I am just putting out the information told to me.
I teach two immigration officers an English class once a week (arranged by my company) and this subject came up.
Anyway basically they said the only people they will give it to are "people who are contributing directly to the advancement of Korea".
They cannot discriminate due to international legislation so basically just don't put the information in that the vast majority of people (99%) who apply for this without any permanent ties to Korea will not be accepted.
When I asked them if English teachers were eligible they basically chuckled and said not a chance (I do live in the south though so maybe Seoul is a little more progressive). The reasoning is they are not contribute to Korea's future at all.
It is made basically for engineers or people in high positions to make it easier for them to come in and out and have something unique to offer Korea that Koreans cannot.
I would love to know how your friends interviews progress however. Keep us updated. |
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Leonidas
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| Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
| and if you are a foreigner and not married to or supporting Korean dependents you will NOT get it - regardless of what you hear or read. |
wrong.
I have a friend who got an F5 without being married to a Korean. he's had it for almost a year now. |
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IlIlNine
Joined: 15 Jun 2005
Location: Gunpo, Gyonggi, SoKo
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| Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:13 am Post subject: |
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| Changwon Charlie wrote: |
| misher wrote: |
I know a few guys that will be applying this fall for their F-2. They both easily clear the 80 point requirement and have played by the rules. (same job, same address, have not even left Korea, didn't break any laws etc)/ Now they are not married nor have any dependents that are Korean. They are banking on getting this visa so they can move forward with their careers. It would be a shame if this f-2 point process is nothing more than a bunch of bs.
We will see. |
All I can say is good luck. I don't want to discourage anyone but I am just putting out the information told to me.
I teach two immigration officers an English class once a week (arranged by my company) and this subject came up.
Anyway basically they said the only people they will give it to are "people who are contributing directly to the advancement of Korea".
They cannot discriminate due to international legislation so basically just don't put the information in that the vast majority of people (99%) who apply for this without any permanent ties to Korea will not be accepted.
When I asked them if English teachers were eligible they basically chuckled and said not a chance (I do live in the south though so maybe Seoul is a little more progressive). The reasoning is they are not contribute to Korea's future at all.
It is made basically for engineers or people in high positions to make it easier for them to come in and out and have something unique to offer Korea that Koreans cannot.
I would love to know how your friends interviews progress however. Keep us updated. |
What you're talking about is what the rule used to be like (the "Hiddink" visa - basically impossible to get). But now they have this new F2-S visa that's only a few months old, and the process seems quite a bit different.
I mean, it seems silly for them to go though the trouble of creating and announcing a new policy that grants F2s to E-class visa holders based on a point system and then refuse to grant these visas. Fact is, getting the 80 points is not easy at all.
In any case, as of next week, I will well clear the 80 points, so I'll let everyone know how it goes when I apply for the new visa. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:15 am Post subject: |
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| Leonidas wrote: |
| ttompatz wrote: |
| and if you are a foreigner and not married to or supporting Korean dependents you will NOT get it - regardless of what you hear or read. |
wrong.
I have a friend who got an F5 without being married to a Korean. he's had it for almost a year now. |
Everybody seems to have a "friend" who did this or that...on a side note it is possible to get an F-5 without being married but like CC said above you have to have made some significant contribution to Korea. So what did your friend do? |
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Changwon Charlie
Joined: 22 Aug 2009
Location: Changwon
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| Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 2:35 am Post subject: |
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| IlIlNine wrote: |
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| misher wrote: |
I know a few guys that will be applying this fall for their F-2. They both easily clear the 80 point requirement and have played by the rules. (same job, same address, have not even left Korea, didn't break any laws etc)/ Now they are not married nor have any dependents that are Korean. They are banking on getting this visa so they can move forward with their careers. It would be a shame if this f-2 point process is nothing more than a bunch of bs.
We will see. |
All I can say is good luck. I don't want to discourage anyone but I am just putting out the information told to me.
I teach two immigration officers an English class once a week (arranged by my company) and this subject came up.
Anyway basically they said the only people they will give it to are "people who are contributing directly to the advancement of Korea".
They cannot discriminate due to international legislation so basically just don't put the information in that the vast majority of people (99%) who apply for this without any permanent ties to Korea will not be accepted.
When I asked them if English teachers were eligible they basically chuckled and said not a chance (I do live in the south though so maybe Seoul is a little more progressive). The reasoning is they are not contribute to Korea's future at all.
It is made basically for engineers or people in high positions to make it easier for them to come in and out and have something unique to offer Korea that Koreans cannot.
I would love to know how your friends interviews progress however. Keep us updated. |
What you're talking about is what the rule used to be like (the "Hiddink" visa - basically impossible to get). But now they have this new F2-S visa that's only a few months old, and the process seems quite a bit different.
I mean, it seems silly for them to go though the trouble of creating and announcing a new policy that grants F2s to E-class visa holders based on a point system and then refuse to grant these visas. Fact is, getting the 80 points is not easy at all.
In any case, as of next week, I will well clear the 80 points, so I'll let everyone know how it goes when I apply for the new visa. |
No I am not...I know all about the "Hiddink" visa. This was a discussion about the points based visa (that has been around a year) that can supposedly lead from an E2 to an F2.
It does seem silly but as I said in my post above it is all for show. They don't want to give out F visas, especially to E2 visa holders as they worried that most of the these will break the law by illegally teaching.
I wish you luck and I hope I am proven wrong. Maybe in Seoul it is different but down here in the south they don't seem to think they need to give it in most cases, even if you do qualify.
As I am sure you know if you have been here a long time, nothing is ever consistent, office to office, person to person, day to day in any immigration office in this country. |
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