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DanseurVertical
Joined: 24 Nov 2010
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Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 11:20 pm Post subject: FBI record check document -- apostille in the Northwest? |
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I'll receive my authenticated CBC from the FBI here shortly. When I do, of course, an apostille is required for the E2 visa. My home state (I live here presently) does not provide apostilles for out-of-state documents. I presume this includes federal documents as well.
In the event that an adjacent state would provide an apostille for a federal document I was considering traveling to that state for this purpose. I've noticed http://www.apostillepros.com/ mentioned around this forum, but I'm not thrilled at giving out $175 for what's in effect a stamp.
Yet at the same time, sending the document to Washington DC and waiting an additional 3 - 4 weeks is probably not an option, unless I find a position with an April start date.
Any helpful advice is certainly appreciated. Thanks! |
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millyfrend
Joined: 29 Apr 2010
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Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 11:36 pm Post subject: Re: FBI record check document -- apostille in the Northwest? |
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Just find a job with a start date of April then you can send it to D.C.
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Pay the $175 to get the apostille in 3-5 business days as apostillepros.com expedite the apostille service, that's why you're paying the amount. To rush it. But if you find another person in the same situation, the 2nd doc rush is $95.
But the thing is the faster you get a job, the quicker you start to make money. If you pay $175 and start your job, for instance, in the next 2-3 weeks, you're already making money by teaching early February. Also, you get to secure a job, as you can tell a lot of people on this forum are trying to get jobs in South Korea. But if you're waiting til April so you don't pay the $175, you will losing out on the paychecks if you'd start early.
I think ultimately it's up to you when you want to work. Get all the paperwork ready, find a job early and get paid or just wait til April. Most people expedite the FBI apostille process so they can get going rather than wait for 3-4 weeks for the apostille from D.C. So it depends on when you want to start working.
DanseurVertical wrote: |
I'll receive my authenticated CBC from the FBI here shortly. When I do, of course, an apostille is required for the E2 visa. My home state (I live here presently) does not provide apostilles for out-of-state documents. I presume this includes federal documents as well.
In the event that an adjacent state would provide an apostille for a federal document I was considering traveling to that state for this purpose. I've noticed http://www.apostillepros.com/ mentioned around this forum, but I'm not thrilled at giving out $175 for what's in effect a stamp.
Yet at the same time, sending the document to Washington DC and waiting an additional 3 - 4 weeks is probably not an option, unless I find a position with an April start date.
Any helpful advice is certainly appreciated. Thanks! |
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Alias77
Joined: 28 Aug 2006
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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:45 am Post subject: |
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http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=197529&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
In the above link, look for Melirae1976's posts about sending the FBI CRC to the State Department for an apostille. It's the correct thing to do and the cheapest. It's 8$ for the apostille, plus the cost of shipping. Factor in an additional 2 weeks of processing time plus shipping time before you will have your CBC in hand. However, the FBI will not mail it to the State Department for you. You must make other arrangements to do so.
Looks like a lot of people are finding out about these changes pretty late. There are pages and pages of posts with information about all of this. Admittedly, it's all strung out. It'd be nice if someone created a consolidated sticky or something that isn't 14 pages long and growing. It took me several days to get all of my CRC questions answered by searching posts and making calls before I could mail out my document requests. I guess the problem is that many of us are holding our breath and waiting for immi to do it's traditional flip-flop, headless chicken dance before creating an official sticky... |
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Lady_Firefly
Joined: 06 Jul 2010 Location: Washington State
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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What state are you in?
not sure if Washington would verify for another state (though I don't recall them requiring me to be a resident, they just wanted the notary to be from washington). but i got my apostille in about 10 minutes.
I also lived in Olympia. I drove down the hill, arrived 20 minutes before closing at the state department, and the lady behind the counter gave my by stamp and certificate. so easy. cost... less than 20 bucks? |
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MMagidson
Joined: 14 Oct 2008
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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You don't get the CRC apostilled. You get the notary public's seal apostilled.
Go to your local bank,
Get the notary public to stamp your document (they are just indicating that the document is yours-literally, they stamp your signature)
Go to your Secretary of States office
They check the notary public's licence in order to determine if the notary is real
Bamn you are finished. |
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DanseurVertical
Joined: 24 Nov 2010
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 12:47 am Post subject: |
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You don't get the CRC apostilled. You get the notary public's seal apostilled.
Go to your local bank,
Get the notary public to stamp your document (they are just indicating that the document is yours-literally, they stamp your signature)
Go to your Secretary of States office
They check the notary public's licence in order to determine if the notary is real
Bamn you are finished. |
Huh? Actually, someone at the FBI notarizes the document. Hence all the talk about attaching a special note with your request form. 'Bamn you are finished'... But as I explained in my original post, my state doesn't apostille out-of-state documents. That was the reason for the post in the first place... |
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DanseurVertical
Joined: 24 Nov 2010
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 12:52 am Post subject: |
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What state are you in?
not sure if Washington would verify for another state (though I don't recall them requiring me to be a resident, they just wanted the notary to be from washington). but i got my apostille in about 10 minutes.
I also lived in Olympia. I drove down the hill, arrived 20 minutes before closing at the state department, and the lady behind the counter gave my by stamp and certificate. so easy. cost... less than 20 bucks? |
Idaho. I'll probably visit Washington anyway, for an interview with the Korean consulate and to visit a friend in Seattle. So, obtaining the apostille in Washington is what I'm considering doing. Thanks for the information, and I'll call the state department in Olympia to ask about the matter. |
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DanseurVertical
Joined: 24 Nov 2010
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 2:17 am Post subject: |
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@MMagidson:
I realize now I mistook the point you were making. That makes sense. Thanks. |
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MMagidson
Joined: 14 Oct 2008
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 7:16 am Post subject: |
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DanseurVertical wrote: |
@MMagidson:
I realize now I mistook the point you were making. That makes sense. Thanks. |
Don't worry, its a bit confusing. As long as you understand what an apostille is and what exactly your getting notarized, it makes sense.
You are only getting your signature on the CRC notarized. (IN YOUR STATE) (If you present it to the apostiller without a signature, they will turn you down)
The apostille you get is to confirm the notary public (IN YOUR STATE) is real in order to be used internationally.
No one at the FBI notarizes your CRC. They only put a seal on the document in order to authenticate it. NOT NOTARIZE. I've spoken to the folks at the FBI several times about this.
I get my apostille at my Secretary of States office. Make calls to be sure where to go. |
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toonchoon

Joined: 06 Feb 2009 Location: Gangnam
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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Lady_Firefly wrote: |
What state are you in?
not sure if Washington would verify for another state (though I don't recall them requiring me to be a resident, they just wanted the notary to be from washington). but i got my apostille in about 10 minutes.
I also lived in Olympia. I drove down the hill, arrived 20 minutes before closing at the state department, and the lady behind the counter gave my by stamp and certificate. so easy. cost... less than 20 bucks? |
they're really nice about doing apostiles in the Washington State Sec. of State office. I got one there 2 years ago, had my mom take care of one a year ago, and I just got a bunch of docs notarized and apostiled there two weeks ago. Few years ago, they apostiled a fingerprint check. I think they might do a federal one. |
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DanseurVertical
Joined: 24 Nov 2010
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 6:17 pm Post subject: OUTCOME |
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I had no luck getting a dept. of state (CA, WA, or ID) to provide an apostille for the national level CBC.
I ultimately used US Legalization. Bought 2 US Mail Express Mail envelopes, and paid $45 for their service. Very easy process. Still a expensive, but a LOT cheaper than apostillepros ($85 vs. $175). |
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