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AsiaESLbound
Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Location: Truck Stop Missouri
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 Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:13 am Post subject: After school pay problem at full time PS elementary job. |
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I was supposed to have been paid on December 24th after many reminders to my co-teacher since the middle of December, but it never came through without answers until I asked today what the problem is after being led on repeatably since Christmas that I'd be paid soon. She actually told me our admin officer is too busy to pay it and is very sorry for being so late, but will pay it this week. Now this is 2pm Friday afternoon so I asked her if that meant today and she got quiet and stumbled on that question so I caught her lying and she tried to quickly change the conversation to ask me why I haven't got married yet. Co-teacher become defensive and angry when I didn't answer to such a stupid inappropriate question and told her it would only take a few minutes of our admin officers time and if he was truly sorry, he would had taken care of it yesterday or many weeks ago as previously agreed. I simply told her to remind him again and see that it gets done as soon as possible, but she just quit talking on me. I never could get clear answers nor agreed upon a plan for me to finish up in 2 weeks via my co-teacher responsible as my handler so I'm skeptical after discussing it several times this week, because she dodged this conversation every time. I got on well with my co-teachers and bosses and they treated me very well, but seem to be testing me if I'll let them pocket my money in the end.
I know you can't contact labor until 2 weeks after you finish as Tompatz wrote, but I'd like to know your experiences with public school liers and how to best handle them in the end. |
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hamsteRRiFic
Joined: 22 Nov 2009
Location: going around in circles...
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| Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:13 am Post subject: |
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Sooo....
why haven't you gotten married yet? |
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Lastrova
Joined: 30 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:14 am Post subject: |
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| Too busy? Does your office have some kind of triage system? |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:02 am Post subject: Re: After school pay problem at full time PS elementary job. |
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| AsiaESLbound wrote: |
I was supposed to have been paid on December 24th after many reminders to my co-teacher since the middle of December, but it never came through without answers until I asked today what the problem is after being led on repeatably since Christmas that I'd be paid soon. She actually told me our admin officer is too busy to pay it and is very sorry for being so late, but will pay it this week. Now this is 2pm Friday afternoon so I asked her if that meant today and she got quiet and stumbled on that question so I caught her lying and she tried to quickly change the conversation to ask me why I haven't got married yet. Co-teacher become defensive and angry when I didn't answer to such a stupid inappropriate question and told her it would only take a few minutes of our admin officers time and if he was truly sorry, he would had taken care of it yesterday or many weeks ago as previously agreed. I simply told her to remind him again and see that it gets done as soon as possible, but she just quit talking on me. I never could get clear answers nor agreed upon a plan for me to finish up in 2 weeks via my co-teacher responsible as my handler so I'm skeptical after discussing it several times this week, because she dodged this conversation every time. I got on well with my co-teachers and bosses and they treated me very well, but seem to be testing me if I'll let them pocket my money in the end.
I know you can't contact labor until 2 weeks after you finish as Tompatz wrote, but I'd like to know your experiences with public school liers and how to best handle them in the end. |
LATE PAY is 14 days late.. not 14 days after you finish your contract.
If you work at a public school and are not being paid for it, contact your liason (GEPIK if you work in Gyeonggi, SMOE if you work in Seoul or EPIK if you are anywhere else). There IS a chain of command that you can use to deal with crud like this.
My personal guess is that the after school program is either run by the principal (through a crony) or the parents committee and you are just being ignored because either they spent it or haven't collected for it yet.
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AsiaESLbound
Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Location: Truck Stop Missouri
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| Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:53 am Post subject: Re: After school pay problem at full time PS elementary job. |
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| AsiaESLbound wrote: |
I was supposed to have been paid on December 24th after many reminders to my co-teacher since the middle of December, but it never came through without answers until I asked today what the problem is after being led on repeatably since Christmas that I'd be paid soon. She actually told me our admin officer is too busy to pay it and is very sorry for being so late, but will pay it this week. Now this is 2pm Friday afternoon so I asked her if that meant today and she got quiet and stumbled on that question so I caught her lying and she tried to quickly change the conversation to ask me why I haven't got married yet. Co-teacher become defensive and angry when I didn't answer to such a stupid inappropriate question and told her it would only take a few minutes of our admin officers time and if he was truly sorry, he would had taken care of it yesterday or many weeks ago as previously agreed. I simply told her to remind him again and see that it gets done as soon as possible, but she just quit talking on me. I never could get clear answers nor agreed upon a plan for me to finish up in 2 weeks via my co-teacher responsible as my handler so I'm skeptical after discussing it several times this week, because she dodged this conversation every time. I got on well with my co-teachers and bosses and they treated me very well, but seem to be testing me if I'll let them pocket my money in the end.
I know you can't contact labor until 2 weeks after you finish as Tompatz wrote, but I'd like to know your experiences with public school liers and how to best handle them in the end. |
LATE PAY is 14 days late.. not 14 days after you finish your contract.
If you work at a public school and are not being paid for it, contact your liason (GEPIK if you work in Gyeonggi, SMOE if you work in Seoul or EPIK if you are anywhere else). There IS a chain of command that you can use to deal with crud like this.
My personal guess is that the after school program is either run by the principal (through a crony) or the parents committee and you are just being ignored because either they spent it or haven't collected for it yet.
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Makes perfect sense. I will go up on the matter. I care less now about keeping my co-teacher happy by being nice to her now I know she's a lier. I can't believe how most native teachers here ostracize other teachers when they write about something of a negative nature no one wants happen. If it weren't for Ttompatz, this site would have next to nothing to offer up on advice for pay, visas, and other work matters in Korea. He and Oculus are the few valuable members that's keeping it going from a professional perspective. I'm sure my pay problem claim would be highly credible to those of you doubting me here if we were discussing it face to face, but my advice is if you don't have some factual advice to a thread on a serious note, just don't reply at all for it's not a bar. Keep up the good work ttompatz! Thanks. |
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AsiaESLbound
Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Location: Truck Stop Missouri
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| Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 3:29 am Post subject: |
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Taken care of, but not without the admin office taking a bitter stance. Thanks Ttompatz.
What is it with admin office people being annoyed and then begin looking for ways to give you a hard time when you ask them to do their job of paying you what you are owed? Now they are requesting many documents without being able tell me what exactly it is they want, but rejecting everything I presented in the past 2 days saying I might have a pay them a large sum. Now it's almost the last minute and they won't give me any answers on final pay arrangements. When it comes to pay, there's no love in it, but money is something we have to uncomfortably talk about when it comes down to dealing with those who are hesitant to do their jobs in the admin office we depend on for our pay owed to us. |
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NYC_Gal 2.0
Joined: 10 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 4:03 am Post subject: |
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Become friendly with one of the admin people. It pays off. I've had the youngest admin girl at my school over to my place for dinner, and bring her goodies every now and then. What works works <<shrugs>> I was only paid late once, and it was by one day and they'd just forgotten because of the holiday.
I hope you don't have to deal with that kind of BS anymore. |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap
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| Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 4:13 am Post subject: |
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| AsiaESLbound wrote: |
| Now they are requesting many documents without being able tell me what exactly it is they want, but rejecting everything I presented in the past 2 days saying I might have a pay them a large sum. |
Sounds like the new tax adjustment already being discussed in a couple threads here. |
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AsiaESLbound
Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Location: Truck Stop Missouri
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| Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 5:17 am Post subject: |
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| schwa wrote: |
| AsiaESLbound wrote: |
| Now they are requesting many documents without being able tell me what exactly it is they want, but rejecting everything I presented in the past 2 days saying I might have a pay them a large sum. |
Sounds like the new tax adjustment already being discussed in a couple threads here. |
I read in another thread they recently changed at the last minute how 2010 taxes are to be calculated and that we will owe more in the end, but due to it's last minute nature many schools won't push this BS on their teachers until February 2012. That is if they care or simply don't yet know about the changes. It would be reasonable to expect changes like this made and communicated a year in advance before applying to us and our employers. Unfortunately I can't really talk with admin on anything nor do they want anything to do with me when I say hi and attempt to be friendly so I've never been able to do anything with them. I'm anxious to be finished, get paid, and come out feeling it was a productive well spent year of my life. |
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