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mises

Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 9:33 pm Post subject: Anonymous Brings Peaceful Revolution To America

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/hacker-group-anonymous-brings-peaceful-revolution-america-will-engage-civil-disobedience-unt

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The world's most (in)famous hacker group - Anonymous - known for effectively shutting down their hacking nemesis security firm (with clients such as Morgan Stanley and, unfortunately for them, Bank of America)- HBGary, advocating the cause of Wikileaks, and the threat made by one of its members that evidence of fraud by Bank of America will be released on Monday, has just launched communication #1 in its Operation "Empire State Rebellion." The goal - engage in "a relentless campaign of non-violent, peaceful, civil disobedience" until Ben Bernanke steps down and the "Primary Dealers within the Federal Reserve banking system be broken up and held accountable for rigging markets and destroying the global economy effective immediately."

The Anonymous manifesto:

* We are a decentralized non-violent resistance movement, which seeks to restore the rule of law and fight back against the organized criminal class.
* One-tenth of one percent of the population has consolidated wealth in unprecedented fashion and launched an all-out economic war against 99.9% of the population.
* We are not affiliated with either wing of the two-party oligarchy. We seek an end to the corrupted two-party system by ending the campaign finance and lobbying racket.
* Above all, we aim to break up the global banking cartel centered at the Federal Reserve, International Monetary Fund, Bank of International Settlement and World Bank.
* We demand that the primary dealers within the Federal Reserve banking system be broken up and held accountable for rigging markets and destroying the global economy, effective immediately.
* As a first sign of good faith we demand Ben Bernanke step down as Federal Reserve chairman.
* Until our demands are met and a rule of law is restored, we will engage in a relentless campaign of non-violent, peaceful, civil disobedience.
* In our next communication we will announce Operation Empire State Rebellion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7D6neBzTnOQ

Ohh I've been waiting for this. I hope it is real.

mises

Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 9:53 pm Post subject:

Monday:

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/hacker-collective-anonymous-release-documents-proving-bank-america-committed-fraud-monday

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A member of the hacker collective Anonymous, which singlehandedly destroyed "hacker defense" firm HB Gary, who goes under the handle OperationLeakS "is claiming to be have emails and documents which prove "fraud" was committed by Bank of America employees, and the group says it'll release them on Monday" reports Gawker. As to the contents of the possible disclosure: ""He Just told me he have GMAC emails showing BoA order to mix loan numbers to not match it's Documents. to foreclose on Americans.. Shame." If indeed this makes the case against BofA' foreclosure practices stronger, it certainly explains why the banking consortium is scrambling to arrange a settlement, and also why Bank of America recently split off its $2 trillion in mortgages into "good bank" and "bad bank" entities.

Space Bar

Joined: 20 Oct 2010

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 12:27 am Post subject:

There is hope yet! But can they really remain "anonymous' and get the job done before the individuals are hit with some phony rape charge or other method of neutralization? I guess what it will come down to is whether the anti-elite hackers outhack the elite hackers.

rollo

Joined: 10 May 2006
Location: China

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 12:46 am Post subject:

Why do I get the feeling that this will be a big shakedown. A few million and we will leave your websites alone. Yeah . Viva the revolution. But enjoy!

mises

Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:04 am Post subject:

http://ampedstatus.org/network/groups/

^ The homepage of the group.

Here's what they want:

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* Enforce RICO Laws
* Break Up the Big Banks
* End the Fed
* Break Up the Mainstream Media
* Shut the Revolving Door
* End Closed Door Lobbying
* Increase Government Transparency
* End Corporate Personhood
* Amend Campaign Finance
* Verify All Votes
* Investigate War Profiteers
* Investigate War Crimes
* End the Wars
* Reopen the 9/11 Investigation
* Restore Civil Liberties
* Uphold the Constitution
* Clean Air, Water & Food
* Reduce Healthcare Costs, Profiteering
* Make Healthcare a Human Right
* Improve Education For All, Reduce Costs
* Reform Prison System
* Reform Drug Laws
* Immigration Reform
* Rebuild Infrastructure
* Protect Internet Freedom
* Empower States� Rights
* End Corporate Welfare
* Raise Taxes on Richest 0.1%
* Reduce Taxes for 99%

This is the group that hacked the (corporate) hackers:

http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2011/02/07/hbgary-federal-hacked-and-exposed-by-anonymous/

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As the coin was tossed to kick off Superbowl XLV, Anonymous unleashed their anger at a security firm who had been investigating their membership.

HBGary Federal had been working on unmasking their identities in cooperation with an FBI investigation into the attacks against companies who were cutting off WikiLeaks access and financing.

Unlike the DDoS attacks for which Anonymous has made headlines in recent months, this incident involved true hacking skills. Anonymous compromised the HBGary website and replaced it with an image explaining their motivation. In addition to the defacement, they downloaded over 60,000 emails from the company and posted them on The Pirate Bay.

The Twitter account of HBGary's CEO, Aaron Barr, was also compromised and tweeted multiple offensive messages, as well as his home address, social security number and cell phone. According to Forbes, the LinkedIn accounts of other HBGary executives were compromised "in minutes."
Aaron Barr's hacked Twitter feed

The research, which HBGary was preparing to sell to the FBI and which allegedly contains names, addresses and other information on Anonymous, was also posted as part of the attack. Anonymous maintains the information is largely bogus and says they are providing it publicly to prove it.

A writer for the DailyKos claims that, in addition to the other damages, Anonymous also deleted the firm's backups.

That takes some skill. HB Gary is one of the firms that would advise gov and the oligopoly on how to protect their info.

Fox

Joined: 04 Mar 2009

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 3:58 pm Post subject:

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Except for the reduce taxes for 99% part (most Americans aren't paying too much in taxes, and I honestly feel that if we're going to be taxing income, everyone should have at least something of tax burden), it's hard to do much but agree. Then again, the list keeps things vague and abstract; when taken down from abstraction into implementation, a lot of these things would change from no-brainers to subjects of strong controversy. How and to what degree State's rights should be "empowered" for example is something that would be very difficult to come to a consensus on (it might be a fun little forum game, though, to see if we could), and I can't even imagine what "breaking up the mainstream media" means. With banks it wouldn't be too hard to envision, but with media? They don't deal in anything tangible, what are you going to do, cap the terabytes of data per month that they can distribute? Limit them to operating in certain regions? It would be disasterous.

And of course, since many of us here would agree that many of these things would be good, it's also only a matter of time before these guys start being accused of being CIA operatives who are just running a con to justify the government cracking down on the internet.

On the other hand

Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:06 pm Post subject:

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and I can't even imagine what "breaking up the mainstream media" means. With banks it wouldn't be too hard to envision, but with media? They don't deal in anything tangible, what are you going to do, cap the terabytes of data per month that they can distribute? Limit them to operating in certain regions? It would be disasterous.

Not to mention that breaking up the mainstream media would almost certainly involve a huge expanision of federal anti-trust laws, which would kinda contradict the "states' rights" aspect of the platform.

caniff

Joined: 03 Feb 2004
Location: All over the map

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 10:34 pm Post subject:

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That's it? Shocked

All the power to them if they can make any headway.

mises

Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:45 am Post subject:

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No.

When they refer to states rights they are referring to the recent book by Thomas Woods.

http://www.amazon.com/Nullification-Resist-Federal-Tyranny-Century/dp/1596981490

The idea is that states don't have to enforce laws that are unconstitutional.

Not everything is a size of government issue ("involve a huge expansion of federal anti-trust laws, which would kinda contradict the "states' rights" aspect of the platform"). Woods has written that monopoly positions caused by the Feds should be moved against by states, to the extent possible. I am entirely indifferent to this.

...

So Anonymous is the real deal:

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2011/03/wikileaks-whistleblower-charges-bofa-of-engaging-in-large-scale-force-placed-insurance-scheme-with-cooperation-of-servicers.html

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/operation-leaks-releases-initial-bofa-emails-indicating-premeditated-intent-deceive-governme

This release is from a leak and not a hack.

Kuros

Joined: 27 Apr 2004

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:58 am Post subject:

On the other hand wrote:

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Television broadcasting is unquestionably interstate commerce. Thus, Federal regulation is appropriate and Constitutional. Anti-trust applied to national media literally has nothing to do with States' Rights. Even under the most traditional view of the Commerce Clause (which has since been sabotaged), Anti-trust of national media would be uncontroversial except to the most hypocritical Republican Congressmen.

caniff

Joined: 03 Feb 2004
Location: All over the map

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 12:15 pm Post subject:

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March 14, 2011 01:00 PM
Anonymous Releases Part 1 of Bank of America Emails, Ex-Employee Says He Can Prove Mortgage Fraud
By Susie Madrak

Ex-employee: 'Tells me Boa is knowingly hiding Foreclosure information from Feds�'
It's here. The first Anonymous leak from an ex-Bank of America employee has been released, so have at it.

Here's a sample:

How is Balboa able to charge such inflated premiums and get away with it?
It�s all very simple.

First, when you call in to customer service, for say, GMAC, you�re not actually speaking to a GMAC employee. You�re actually speaking to a Bank of America associate working for Balboa Insurance who is required by their business to business contract with GMAC to state that they are, in fact, an employee of GMAC. The reasoning is that if you do not realize you�re speaking to a Bank of America/Balboa Insurance employee, you have no reason to question the validity of the information you are receiving from them. If you call your insurance agent and ask them for the lienholder information for your GMAC/Wells Fargo/etc lien (home or auto) you will be provided with their name, but the mailing address will be a PO Box at one of Balboa�s 3 main tracking locations (Moon Township/Coreaopolis, PA, Dallas/Ft Worth, TX, or Phoenix/Chandler, AZ)

Anonymous also released this video (warning: turn down the volume), and has called for multiple days of national civil disobedience to shut down the Fed, March 28th and on:

http://crooksandliars.com/

March 28th happens to be my birthday - all the more reason for me to disobey.

(I'm not sure exactly how I'll disobey, but I'm open to ideas.)

Fox

Joined: 04 Mar 2009

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:55 pm Post subject:

mises wrote:

The idea is that states don't have to enforce laws that are unconstitutional.

States should (and do) have the right to challenge a federal law's constitutionality in court, but until or unless it's struck down by the court, they should have to enforce it. Letting states unilaterally decide which laws are and aren't constitutional and then enforce or not enforce those laws at their pleasure leads to problems, because politicians of all stripes are all too willing to simply arbitrarily and falsely declare things unconstitutional.

If this is their idea of state's rights, I want no part of it. State-level governments have too much incentive to play politics with judgments of constitutionality.

Ya-ta Boy

Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 1:22 am Post subject:

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Interesting list. I'm curious why .9% of the richest get to keep their present tax rate.

It's a fairly comprehensive list of the issues of our day, but just listing them with the word 'reform' stuck on does not tell me enough about what kind of reform they are after. I might agree, but then again I might not. Give me some details.

I'm also uneasy about signing on to support a group of hackers, who in general I think should have their fingers cut off, for hacking into private files. Hacking into private files seems to contradict restoring civil liberties. The thinking seems to be: "Even without a trial we know you are guilty, so we have a right to break the law to prove it." With reopening the 9/11 thing, they sound like a bunch of Truther conspiracists, with whom I'm not sympathetic at all. I'm not at all interested in breaking up Main Stream Media (whatever that means) if it means leaving Rupert Murdoch in control of his little empire. Fox covered most of what I'd say about States Rights, but I would add that the question was settled in 1865 and it was treason then and it remains treason now.

The whole thing reads like a laundry list of different factions' dream agendas that was uncritically thrown together to keep the organization together.

Ya-ta Boy

Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 1:35 am Post subject:

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When they refer to states rights they are referring to the recent book by Thomas Woods.

http://www.amazon.com/Nullification-Resist-Federal-Tyranny-Century/dp/1596981490

The idea is that states don't have to enforce laws that are unconstitutional.

I checked Woods' book 'Nullification' out on Amazon. According to the reviews, his book is based on the long-discredited compact theory of John C. Calhoun. Enough said.

Kuros

Joined: 27 Apr 2004

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:22 pm Post subject:

Ya-ta Boy wrote:

I'm also uneasy about signing on to support a group of hackers, who in general I think should have their fingers cut off, for hacking into private files. Hacking into private files seems to contradict restoring civil liberties. The thinking seems to be: "Even without a trial we know you are guilty, so we have a right to break the law to prove it."

Okay, now, usually I would chime in and agree that the courts are the proper place to fix these things (and they are). But so far, the courts have been lazy. Foreclosures are the 'easy' parts of the judges' dockets, and like us who frequent this board, they don't want to deal with tough and stressful issues 8 hours/day.

The very few foreclosure activists I know are precisely that: activists. Either that or they work for Legal Aid. There is no money in foreclosure defense. This was the sole reason I didn't challenge Nohopeseriously's (far too) sweeping indictment of the adversarial system. America has subsidized criminal defense (public defenders), but at this juncture, it can't afford to sufficiently subsidize civil defense, such as foreclosure actions.

Review Matt Taibbi's Report on the Rocket Docket

Educate yourself on the mystery of the magical allonge.

And finally, understand what a massive clusterfrak the HAMP program (aka the Obama plan) is.

And once you've learned where we are now, you can go back and do some history work on what happened over the past five years, and then you'll be horrified.

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