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Sliver



Joined: 04 May 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 3:52 am    Post subject: aspergers Reply with quote

Has anyone had any experience teaching children with aspergers syndrome?

If so and if you have some salient points for me please post or PM me.

Thanks
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ajuma



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For those of you (like myself!) who had NO idea what this syndrom is:

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Persons with AS show marked deficiencies in social skills, have difficulties with transitions or changes and prefer sameness. They often have obsessive routines and may be preoccupied with a particular subject of interest. They have a great deal of difficulty reading nonverbal cues (body language) and very often the individual with AS has difficulty determining proper body space. Often overly sensitive to sounds, tastes, smells, and sights, the person with AS may prefer soft clothing, certain foods, and be bothered by sounds or lights no one else seems to hear or see.
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margaret



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been told by two experts that they think I have Asberger's and when I read the literature it explains most of the things that I thought were personal ideosyncracies. Quite a few trimes, growing up, I was thought to be "retarded." I haven't taught anybody who I know has it but I can tell you what helps me.
Cut out distractions.
Give very explicit step by step instructions. Make sure they learn one step before going onto the next. Don't ever expect them to follow a number of instructions at once.
Have them actually do the thing you want them to learn rather than thinking they can learn from mimicing you or hearning/reading how to do it.
Hope that helps. Are you teaching someone with Asberger's?
Margaret
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jajdude



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have heard it is related to autism but is milder; I suppose meaning that those with AS are higher functioning than most autistic people. Just what I read somewhere. Haven't met anybody with it.
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Sliver



Joined: 04 May 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

margaret wrote:
Are you teaching someone with Asberger's?
Margaret


Yes. I have been teaching this person three times a week for 90 minutes for about 8 weeks. My classes are very structured (ie always follow same format: check homework, sing last unit song, multi media song, phonics book pages, English text target language presentation, target language activity, writing time, story book (usually presented using multi media), set homework for next class, goodbye song or activity) and though every child is different I can usually "read" what they require from me with regards to learning. This student was a mystery to me. Unit test resuts were alays in the 90's and though she seemed distant in class managed to perform do writing activites well but is slow to respond in TPR activities.

This girl has a beautiful innocence but is definately "wangta" or outcast socially with the other children and does show inappropiate social behavour. I was concerned but moreover puzzled (confused) as to how to teach this girl and what the parents expectations were. At this stage I didn't know she had Aspergers. I called a parent meeting with the mother and that is how I found out.

I have since done a lot of reading over the past two days on the internet about the syndrome and have some ideas I will impliment for her to maintain an interest in English. I have to be careful not to further ostracise her from the other children, maintain the discipline level and continuity of my class while understanding her when she behaves inappropiately and also provide for her needs.Hence I asked the question in the OP.

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The Lemon



Joined: 11 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Persons with AS show marked deficiencies in social skills, have difficulties with transitions or changes and prefer sameness. They often have obsessive routines and may be preoccupied with a particular subject of interest. They have a great deal of difficulty reading nonverbal cues (body language) and very often the individual with AS has difficulty determining proper body space.

I wonder how doctors distinguish between them and other Koreans. Wink
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Alyallen



Joined: 29 Mar 2004
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

I've worked with Autistic children and young adults for 3 summers. From what I understand, Autism and Asbergers have some similar characteristics. I may not be the most knowledgable, but I would like to help if possible. If you are really interested in Asbergers, you can find books or websites about a woman known as Temple Grandin. She has either high functioning Autism or Asbergers (I'm sorry, I can't quite remember right now). She overcame her symptons and became a famous inventor. It might give you a glimpse into that kind of mind. That can be more helpful than a behavioral model.

Please pm with any specific questions you may have.

AlyAllen
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kylehawkins2000



Joined: 08 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I attended a presentation on Asperger's last year and they basically said that it was a form of autism. They said that Autism exists on a spectrum (from high-functioning to low-functioning) and asperger's is at one end of that spectrum (high-functioning). People with Asperger's tend to be very intelligent in some respects and not very intelligent in other's (ie. socially or emotionally).

They perform best in highly structured and predicatable environments.

Point of Interest: I was told that NASA is one of the biggest employers of people with Asperger's. I believe that "Rainman" was modelled after a guy with Asperger's Syndrome. (I'm not sure if either of these are true however)
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Butterfly



Joined: 02 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 6:02 pm    Post subject: Re: aspergers Reply with quote

A lot of very functional people supposedly have Asbergers, (Einstein, Bill Gates) as well as some rather disfuntional ones (Jeffrey Dahmer). Anyway, lots here might have it to some degree, find out here with this questionnaire.

http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/9.12/aqtest.html
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dogbert



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 6:07 pm    Post subject: Re: aspergers Reply with quote

Butterfly wrote:
A lot of very functional people supposedly have Asbergers, (Einstein, Bill Gates) as well as some rather disfuntional ones (Jeffrey Dahmer). Anyway, lots here might have it to some degree, find out here with this questionnaire.

http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/9.12/aqtest.html


I'm convinced that there is at least one regular poster who has it.
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Butterfly



Joined: 02 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 7:33 pm    Post subject: Re: aspergers Reply with quote

dogbert wrote:
I'm convinced that there is at least one regular poster who has it.


Begin with a 'J'?
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dogbert



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 8:20 pm    Post subject: Re: aspergers Reply with quote

Butterfly wrote:
dogbert wrote:
I'm convinced that there is at least one regular poster who has it.


Begin with a 'J'?


"Marco"?

"Polo"!
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Paji eh Wong



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're interested in a fictional account, try The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time . I haven't read it yet, but it comes highly recomended.
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OiGirl



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2004 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's good that you have a set sequence for your class. You might want to create an illustrated poster to represent this, then she knows where you are and what's coming next at all times. A strict schedule is useful for people from across the autistic spectrum. And this is "best practice," too. It won't hurt any of the kids in your class.
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kiwiboy_nz_99



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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2004 4:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have down syndrome with severe autistic complications, and yes, I've had trouble teaching myself for quite some time ...
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