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catman
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 Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 8:06 pm Post subject: Somali militant group recruiting Canadian youth |
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Top Canadian security officials say they have intercepted or intervened in a number of cases involving Canadian youths set to join the Somalia-based militant organization al-Shabaab, but in spite of their efforts many others may have joined the group.
Canadian security officials believe at least 20 Canadian youths have been recruited by al-Shabaab � and that most of those young men have come from the Greater Toronto Area.
Al-Shabaab is based in Somalia, and believed to have links to al-Qaeda.
Canadian officials claim the group has been so successful at recruiting that it is now considered to be the number 1 threat to Canada's national security.
In an interview with CBC News, Insp. Keith Finn of Canada's Integrated National Security Enforcement Team said that in spite of the successes of intercepting some youths bound for al-Shabaab training camps, there's always concern about those who've slipped through and could eventually return to Canada as trained terrorists.
"The problem is, if they're prepared to act on it, a very small number of people can cause a great deal of damage to Canadians," said Finn.
In a video, English-speaking extremists in Somalia are heard urging youths in the West to wage holy war, or jihad.
The recruits are promised power and martyrdom.
"Radicals are whispering in their ears saying, 'You will never get a job in this country. You're not wanted. You're the enemy. You can have 10 degrees, you will never get a chance in this country. So be a man, step up to the plate and join the jihad,'" said Mohamed Abdullahi Mohamed.
Abdullahi Mohamed, 36, trained as a fighter for al-Shabaab in Mogadishu but left the organization and returned to Canada in 2009. He had originally come to Canada as a teen, in 1989.
Abdullahi Mohamed now lives and works in Toronto. He says he left al-Shabaab because he never accepted its extremist views. But many young Muslim Torontonians are still joining, he said.
"They are an organization that is recruiting, effectively, young, Western Muslim youth," he said.
In March 2010, the federal government declared al-Shabaab to be a terrorist organization.
In July, al-Shabaab claimed responsibility for bombings in Uganda that killed 74 people.
Abdullahi Mohamed said he fears that unless the federal government reaches out to young Muslims there will be more young men from Canada joining al-Shabaab.
"Help us before they use us. Employ us before they employ us. The ball is in your court federal government. Wake up before the blood is soaked in the streets of Toronto, like it was in London, Stockholm and New York."
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recessiontime
Joined: 21 Jun 2010
Location: Got avatar privileges nyahahaha
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| Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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| I agree with the muslim extremists, they'll never get a job in Canada, not even with 10 degrees lol. There just arent any jobs in the great white north lol |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired
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| Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:17 am Post subject: |
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http://tinyurl.com/46l8lb9
^ No matter where they are they are causing problems.
They should not be in Canada. Mass immigration from the third world has been a terrible mistake. Canadians were not asked and the consequences are covered up. We will regret this. |
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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: the eye
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| Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:26 am Post subject: |
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| mises wrote: |
| They should not be in Canada. |
Your parents or grandparents were immigrants to Canada. Who are you to deny the same opportunities to others?
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| Mass immigration from the third world has been a terrible mistake. |
They do plenty of DDD jobs that you refuse to. They also enrich and vary the culture.
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| Canadians were not asked and the consequences are covered up. We will regret this. |
i don't see you regretting your spicy curry and rice in downtown toronto.
If you want to modify your post however...to say "Muslim immigration has been a mistake", then we will be able to agree on something. |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004
Location: All over the map
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| Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:35 am Post subject: |
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| Sounds like France with their own "youth" problems. |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004
Location: All over the map
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| Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:37 am Post subject: |
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| Junior wrote: |
| spicy curry and rice in downtown toronto. |
Is this a huge draw there or something?
(I pity the person's tastebuds that get all in a lather over curry.) |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired
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| Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:41 am Post subject: |
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| I am not an egalitarian. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:51 am Post subject: |
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| Junior wrote: |
| mises wrote: |
| They should not be in Canada. |
Your parents or grandparents were immigrants to Canada. Who are you to deny the same opportunities to others? |
How do you know the ethnic make up of this board?
You accused Canada of killing off 99% of it's native people before, and never backed that up. You accused me and mine of abusing Natives, yet you've never met me.
You seem to love going on a little Canada is _______kick, but when pressed, you never seem to be able to back up what you're saying.
So, would you mind proving any of the above. That there are no, and have never been, any Canadian First Nations posting on this forum. And while you're at it, I'm still waiting for you to prove your other assertions. |
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beck's
Joined: 02 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:56 am Post subject: |
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The problem is not immigration. The problem is multiculturalism. Our betters have embrassed the concept that all cultures are equal except for western culture.
We are told constantly that western culture is responsible for the oppression of the third world, slavery, obesity, exploitation of the working class, green house gasses, overconsumption, water pollution, colonialism, neo-colonialism and post colonialism, unjust wars, aggression and what have you.
There has been a sustained and continuous assault on western culture by the intellectual elites in virtually every university humanities department in the west. This has been going on for since I was in university 35 years ago and it has picked up speed since to the point where western woman ae aborting their children in massive numbers.
On the other hand our elites tell us that 'third world' cultures are 'authentic' and superior to ours. There food doesn't come wrapped in plastic and they value the 'real things' in life rather than our spoiled western consumerism which has produced McDonald's and KFC and dangerous pesticides.
No wonder young immigrants don't want to assimilate. Little wonder that they are attracted to the political project we call Islam. Bin Laden once said that people will always follow the strong horse. Our elites have made us, in the eyes of the world, the weak horse.
Western self-hatred is so ingrained now that I sometimes feel that we are doomed. |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004
Location: All over the map
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| Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:10 am Post subject: |
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| You accused Canada of killing off 99% of it's native people before, and never backed that up. |
Junior has - let's assume - exaggerated with the 99% figure, but I wouldn't doubt it if the number was still depressingly high.
In America we had a kill ratio of somewhere between 99% and zero, but I think we're still waiting for the final tally. |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:34 am Post subject: |
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| beck's wrote: |
The problem is not immigration. The problem is multiculturalism. Our betters have embrassed the concept that all cultures are equal except for western culture.
We are told constantly that western culture is responsible for the oppression of the third world, slavery, obesity, exploitation of the working class, green house gasses, overconsumption, water pollution, colonialism, neo-colonialism and post colonialism, unjust wars, aggression and what have you.
There has been a sustained and continuous assault on western culture by the intellectual elites in virtually every university humanities department in the west. This has been going on for since I was in university 35 years ago and it has picked up speed since to the point where western woman ae aborting their children in massive numbers.
On the other hand our elites tell us that 'third world' cultures are 'authentic' and superior to ours. There food doesn't come wrapped in plastic and they value the 'real things' in life rather than our spoiled western consumerism which has produced McDonald's and KFC and dangerous pesticides.
No wonder young immigrants don't want to assimilate. Little wonder that they are attracted to the political project we call Islam. Bin Laden once said that people will always follow the strong horse. Our elites have made us, in the eyes of the world, the weak horse.
Western self-hatred is so ingrained now that I sometimes feel that we are doomed. |
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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 7:05 am Post subject: |
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| caniff wrote: |
| Junior has - let's assume - exaggerated with the 99% figure, but I wouldn't doubt it if the number was still depressingly high. |
Great, someone with enough sense to read the spirit of a post rather than just the letter.
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| The problem is not immigration. The problem is multiculturalism. |
Nah..I'm fine with multicultralism. Diversity is the spice of life. Nothing more dull to me than a monoculture- be it in terms of race, thinking, or practise.
The problem is when you import a culture that is pre-programmed to never be able to integrate- but rather to gradually supplant the host culture. Its equivalent to introducing an invasive species. The only culture fitting this description- is Islam.
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| How do you know the ethnic make up of this board? |
I know you aren't a native Canadian.
And I seem to remember that Mises is ethnically Korean.
So we's got ourselves two furriners here then, isn't it?
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| You accused Canada of killing off 99% of it's native people before |
If someone in passing, says "I'm 99% sure today is monday", do you then sue them in a court of law when you find out that it is in fact Tuesday?
Wow...
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| and never backed that up. |
Actually I posted 2 websites which you dismissed as being "too old". There are many written first-hand accounts from Auschwitz. Must we disbelieve them because they are more than 2 years old?
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| You accused me and mine of abusing Natives, yet you've never met me. |
No I specifically said "not you personally but your ancestors, your nation".
You still haven't said what happened to all the real Canadians. The ones that used to hunt bison with spears and stuff all over Canada.
200 years back they were running the show, now they're not. Instead they've been replaced by millions of white dudes from Europe. Looks a bit suspicious.
Care to explain? |
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Kimbop
Joined: 31 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 8:06 am Post subject: |
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Your parents or grandparents were immigrants to Canada. Who are you to deny the same opportunities to others?
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Canada is a wonderful country thanks not to "immigrants", but to immigrants of European Judeo-Christian heritage. Somali communities are overrepresented in drugs, crime, and 'at-risk' lifestyles. If, rather than Europeans, thousands of middle-easterners settled the Americas, then Canada would now be a third-world hell hole.
Contemporary times bear little difference. A country is only as good as its people. Thank liberalism for encouraging anti-human culture and values in the first world.
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They do plenty of DDD jobs that you refuse to. They also enrich and vary the culture.
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In fact, Somalis enrich and 'vary' our culture to such an extent, that the next best thing is moving to Somalia itself! Somalia and other muslim countries are paradisical!
Just kidding. Click the first link:
http://www.google.ca/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ACAW_en___CA409&q=toronto+most+wanted+homicide
The rest of your post was a joke, right? Your emotion bears little influence in the face of facts. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired
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| Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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A Somalian in Seattle kidnapped a tortured a white male:
http://www.mynorthwest.com/category/local_news_articles/20110121/Attacker-in-West-Seattle-hate-crime-apologizes,-gets-prison
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The attack was savage. Two people set upon Shane McClellan in the early morning hours one day last May as the 16-year-old was walking home from a friend's house.
"They burned him with lit cigarettes, they urinated on him, they beat him, his teeth were chipped, his face was swollen almost beyond recognition when the police arrived several hours later," deputy prosecutor Erin Becker told a judge Friday.
Police say the men beat and tortured McClellan for as long as four hours, at one point saying "how do you like it, white boy?" |
http://www.westseattleherald.com/2011/01/04/news/update-one-shane-mcclellan%E2%80%99s-attackers-pleads-gui
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In the plea deal, Mohamed wrote, �Specifically, I along with Jonathan Baquiring robbed Shane McClellan by stealing items from his pockets while threatening to cap him, whipping him with his belt and burning him with cigarettes. We also displayed a knife with a several inch blade, held it to his neck and threatened to cut his throat. We targeted McClellan because he was a different race than we are.�
Mohamed continued, �� I inflicted bodily injury on Shane McClellan and ... I was armed with a deadly weapon, specifically a knife and maliciously and intentionally because of my perception of his race, caused physical injury to Shane McClellan and placed Shane McClellan in reasonable fear of harm to his person and to his property.� |
http://newsmediainsider.blogspot.com/2010/09/seattle-police-issue-arrest-warrants-in.html
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| Court documents show why, revealing that during the attack the men shouted at Shane, "The white man has kept us down," and "This is for enslaving our people." |
Vibrant Diversity. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Junior wrote: |
| CaptainCorea wrote: |
| How do you know the ethnic make up of this board? |
I know you aren't a native Canadian.
And I seem to remember that Mises is ethnically Korean.
So we's got ourselves two furriners here then, isn't it? |
How do you know my Ethnicity? Do you know that I have no Native Canadian blood in me? Also, what exactly is a Native Canadian? What's their lineage/DNA breakdown? What's the variation between the groups? How much does that differ between the variation between Mises and them? Do you know any of these facts? Nope, you don't.
North America, like most parts of the world, has seen different waves of human migration. Who are you to say that one wave has more validity than another?
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| You accused Canada of killing off 99% of it's native people before |
If someone in passing, says "I'm 99% sure today is monday", do you then sue them in a court of law when you find out that it is in fact Tuesday?
Wow... |
This isn't a court of law so your strawman doesn't fly. You posted a point, and have not been able to back it up.
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| and never backed that up. |
Actually I posted 2 websites which you dismissed as being "too old". There are many written first-hand accounts from Auschwitz. Must we disbelieve them because they are more than 2 years old? |
You posted a blog.
A blog.
For all I know, you could have created that blog.
How in the world do you think a blog is credible?
Also, I don't recall any part of that blog backing up your 99% number. Mind showing me actual evidence?
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| You accused me and mine of abusing Natives, yet you've never met me. |
No I specifically said "not you personally but your ancestors, your nation". |
Again, how do you know what MY ancestors have done? Have you researched MY family tree? By all means, enlighten me; when and what exactly did my family do? Heck, do you even know their names?
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You still haven't said what happened to all the real Canadians. The ones that used to hunt bison with spears and stuff all over Canada.
200 years back they were running the show, now they're not. Instead they've been replaced by millions of white dudes from Europe. Looks a bit suspicious.
Care to explain? |
Explain what? That there are over one million Natives living in Canada? I have posted that.
1,172,790
That's a fair number of people.
Just because they don't hunt bison on the plains, nor live in tepees, doesn't mean they are not there. |
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