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NohopeSeriously

How my Kiwi friend describes her birth country: "There are too many Kiwis moving to Australia to work. NZ's economy is collapsing like a dead bird falling from the sky. It's a good time for the collective self-hatred and let's become Aussies or Canadians."

Is living in New Zealand really that bad? Then I found an article how the brain drain in NZ is very bad. A brain drain approved by the Prime Minister?

Summer Wine · Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Location: Next to a River

There was a book I read a few years ago by an ultra elitist on how how the wealthy in the US could protect themselves.

They could place thier money in Switzerland so they dont pay taxes, Keep thier US passport so they have certain protections and buy up land in New Zealand or Argentina as it is far from the US if the world goes crazy and the economic problems causes the US to crumble.

It was written in the 1990s and he viewed NZ as similar to a holiday home for the wealthy. I wondered how he reconciled that view of a feudalistic environment for the rich with all the people currently living there.

Well lets just say the brain drain and the anti society created by many wealthy people in NZ has been rather extreme, while at the same time the number of large properties bought up has increased.

It would not suprise me at all, if some wealthy people saw a chance to simply depopulate a nation through excessive governmental policies and problems simply so they could live an economic feudalist lifestyle with enough serfs (workers) to maintain the land and lifestyle of the wealthy.

While the rest either left or simply survived in small enclaves. It may sound stupid, but it seemed to be the epitome of his argument. The wealthy were supreme and it made good sense that they should build properties with walls and moats to separate themselves from the commoner.

I guess he viewed NZ as simply a place that had a deep moat.

recessiontime · Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:30 am Post subject:

that's pretty interesting SW.

Canada has a brain drain as well but it compensates by bringing in a bunch of immigrants each year to maintain the population. Maybe this is the direction NZ is headed. Because right now a lot of them are graduating uni there and going to Australia to default and get a job.

Captain Corea · Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Location: Seoul

How's the standard of living between the two?

recessiontime · Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:27 am Post subject:

Captain Corea · Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Location: Seoul

On the other hand · Joined: 19 Apr 2003 Location: I walk along the avenue

recessiontime · Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:33 am Post subject:

BoholDiver · Joined: 03 Oct 2009 Location: Canada

What a shock. The biggest city in Canada has the highest competition.

Also every migrant moving there, thinking its the promised land. There is a lot of Canada outside of Toronto and Vancouver.

recessiontime · Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:23 am Post subject:

I was comparing Toronto to NSW. Not Canada to Australia. I haven't been outside Toronto or Ontario. I've lived in Hamilton and London for several years too and the situation wasn't much better.

Anyway, the fact that Canadians are coming here in droves to do terrible jobs says something. The other day a telemarketer called to bother me. Turned out that the telemarketer was a Canadian. I asked her if she moved to Australia for this job and she told me yes. That was pretty crazy stuff.

mises · Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Location: retired

BoholDiver · Joined: 03 Oct 2009 Location: Canada

Maybe they're tired of the weather.

Captain Corea · Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Location: Seoul

NohopeSeriously · Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:47 pm Post subject:

Let's get back to the topic.

Summer Wine · Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Location: Next to a River

Thanks guys, I just learnt my new fact for the day.

Hamilton is a city in Canada.

Until the last statement of a Hamiltonian, I thought they were talking about a city in NZ.

The biggest problems for many countries is that the governments promote a globalisation with a global economy in a current situation where a large nationalist based economy which posits ethnic nationalism as supreme is currently economically stronger than globablism.

The result is that except for the absolute wealthy who have no national identity as they own property, businesses etc in many different countries, the rest suffer from being constrained by thier passports while being paid or not according to thier national identity.

The Davos conference members and the leaders of the political and economic countries that go there do have to explain thier ideas for the globe. Otherwise they have to deal with protests as the the situation gets worse or find themselves a country in which they own lands and are protected by thier security forces.