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Where would you send a new college grad?
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Illysook



Joined: 30 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 11:42 pm    Post subject: Where would you send a new college grad? Reply with quote

A friend from home is thinking about coming here. She's a tall, thin, totally gorgeous African-American girl from Ohio. I can't recommend the hagwon where I worked that first year, and now I work for a GEPIK school. If she can't find a public school position, where would you send her? Poly? PSA? YBM? JLS? Some other school? None of these?

Don't bash schools, just give a newbie an idea to start when she applies to schools directly.
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willteachforfood



Joined: 24 Jan 2011

PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't send her to any specific chain of hagwons....just apply, see who offers her a position and then have her call the current teacher at that school for a chat...don't take a job anywhere that doesn't give you a contact number for a current teacher.
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lalartu



Joined: 29 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

certain franchises, especially the ones dealing with younger kids, tend to take only specific...shall I say phenotype...of people

they would very unlikely to hire an African american. I know so because my wife works for one and she's been specifically told by her boss to avoid everything that is not white enough or anyone who doesn't fit the stereotype of Korean cuteness.

it's sad, but it's true

I think she has a much much higher chance of getting hired by the government programs (SMOE/EPIK/GEPIK/JEPIK etc...) because they aim for diversity all the time. Hagwons, especially well established ones, will very unlikely to hire her unfortunately. especially nowadays when they prefer a thin white chick on her first year to a shorter white dude with 4 years of experience...(ahem, yours trully)
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Space Cowboy



Joined: 27 Mar 2010
Location: On the blessed hellride

PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 1:28 am    Post subject: Re: Where would you send a new college grad? Reply with quote

Illysook wrote:
a tall, thin, totally gorgeous African-American girl


Internal monologue: "Don't say 'send her to my apartment'. Don't say 'send her to my apartment'."

Me: Uh, how about you send her to my apartment?

Internal monologue: "Doh!"

//obscure Family Guy paraphrase

Seriously, I haven't been here that long, but it sounds like hagwons would prefer to hire a socially awkward, schizophrenic, lice-infested blonde female over your friend. It's backwards and shameful. If she can't get on with SMOE or EPIK, have her apply for the JET Program, which has a fine track record of accepting African-Americans.
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap

PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 2:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd be wary of "sending" a friend anywhere. Should things not work out, for whatever reasons, an element of blame will attach to you.

Better she does the research herself & takes ownership of her decision. By all means be an experienced sounding board for her, but not her sole guide.
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hogwonguy1979



Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: the racoon den

PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 2:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

easy, wonderland, its always wonderful at wonderlland
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ontheway



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...

PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:14 am    Post subject: Re: Where would you send a new college grad? Reply with quote

Illysook wrote:
A friend from home is thinking about coming here. She's a tall, thin, totally gorgeous African-American girl from Ohio. I can't recommend the hagwon where I worked that first year, and now I work for a GEPIK school. If she can't find a public school position, where would you send her? Poly? PSA? YBM? JLS? Some other school? None of these?

Don't bash schools, just give a newbie an idea to start when she applies to schools directly.



Your friend will need to apply with several recruiters. She should post her resume here on Dave's and on any other site available. Then, the usual thing, check out each offer carefully.

Some recruiters will probably not help her because she is more difficult to place. Some schools will not consider her. Even some public schools may reject her. But, there are many hogwans and public schools that will give her a chance. She will just have to look at bit harder and apply to more schools and with more recruiters.

When did she or will she graduate? When is she considering coming to Korea?
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cyui



Joined: 10 Jan 2011

PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really? What part of Ohio?

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cyui



Joined: 10 Jan 2011

PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

and yes, we are freaks'

Where is the path?


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madoka



Joined: 27 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cyui wrote:
I mean REALLY?! Making me do this over an internet discussion board because you refuse to reply to my e-mails, and calls..this is the only way to communciate?! OMG!!!!!


Are you familiar with the freakiest waegook thread?
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siwawalter



Joined: 16 Feb 2011

PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Where would you send a new college grad? Reply with quote

Why don't you send her where you work or where you're at so she has a friend.

Illysook wrote:
A friend from home is thinking about coming here. She's a tall, thin, totally gorgeous African-American girl from Ohio. I can't recommend the hagwon where I worked that first year, and now I work for a GEPIK school. If she can't find a public school position, where would you send her? Poly? PSA? YBM? JLS? Some other school? None of these?

Don't bash schools, just give a newbie an idea to start when she applies to schools directly.
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Radius



Joined: 20 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cyui wrote:
Really? What part of Ohio?

cyui are you from Ohio or have Ohio ties? You seem to be intrigued by the state.
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West Coast Tatterdemalion



Joined: 31 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I wouldn't send her to Korea. No way. She'll get the "A-peu-ri-ka sa-ram" on a daily basis as well as the pointing and that colorful "ooga-ooga" that accompanies anyone who has dark skin. I knew a black chick here in Korea, a very nice person, and boy did she have the stories. You white guys thing you got it rough, nothing on par with the crap she had to deal with.
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CPJ



Joined: 30 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apply everywhere.

I would guess that about 95% of schools will not be interested. So the more you apply, the more job offers you will get.

You can't tell whether a school is good or bad based on the franchise name. For example, I worked at a GNB and it was great. However, I know others that worked at a different GNB and it sucked. So it all depends on the specific school and location as every school probably has a different owner.

Like one of the above posts said, talk to a teacher. Ask enough questions and you'll find out.
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siwawalter



Joined: 16 Feb 2011

PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Job market is bad, I would apply everywhere as well.

CPJ wrote:
Apply everywhere.

I would guess that about 95% of schools will not be interested. So the more you apply, the more job offers you will get.

You can't tell whether a school is good or bad based on the franchise name. For example, I worked at a GNB and it was great. However, I know others that worked at a different GNB and it sucked. So it all depends on the specific school and location as every school probably has a different owner.

Like one of the above posts said, talk to a teacher. Ask enough questions and you'll find out.
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