Site Search:
 
Speak Korean Now!
Teach English Abroad and Get Paid to see the World!
Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index Korean Job Discussion Forums
"The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Teachers from Around the World!"
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

International School v Public School
Goto page 1, 2  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> Job-related Discussion Forum
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
ed1980



Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: Goyang

PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:32 pm    Post subject: International School v Public School Reply with quote

Hi

Has someone who has taught in both offer me some advice please. My wife and I are coming to the end of our hagwon contracts and are looking for new jobs. This is our second time in Korea and after a year of hagwon teaching and three years previously we wish to work in either an international school or a public school.

In between our two times in Korea we both completed teacher training and taught in the UK (Secondary Maths and Primary)

I assume we both have the experience/qualifications for these schools (but probably not enough for a university job?)

What are the pros and cons of each school ?
How do we get the ball rolling to find suitable positions ?
Are couple positions possible ?


thanks
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
smurfetta



Joined: 03 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You and your wife sound very qualified for international schools. As a teaching couple, I think you two will not have a problem finding international school jobs. Google these websites: tieonline, search associates, tes.co.uk (lots of British International School Jobs on this site) and international schools review.

If you are not picky about where you want to teach then I think you and your wife will be able to land decent positions.

Good luck with your job search.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

QTS and more than 2 years in the classroom? Ya. Add ibo.org to your list for looking at international schools as well.

Pros/cons?

International schools have more work, higher expectations and better pay/benefits. You will be instructing in subjects not ESL.

Public schools (in Korea) have less work, lower expectations, more dead time and shorter vacations. They also pay (at their highest levels) about 30% less than the better international schools at the mid-range level.

.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
oldtrafford



Joined: 12 Jan 2011

PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You would both get university jobs with QTS, for sure!! Did you do the PGCSE or the GTP?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ed1980



Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: Goyang

PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

multiple post

Last edited by ed1980 on Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:54 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
ed1980



Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: Goyang

PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

multiple post

Last edited by ed1980 on Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:55 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
ed1980



Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: Goyang

PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

multiple post

Last edited by ed1980 on Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:55 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
ed1980



Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: Goyang

PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks you three - thats perfect

I did PGCE and just shy of 2 years of teaching after that

My wife is a trained teacher from New Zealand and she has 4 years experience teaching in the UK and she also obtained QTS from UK


so uni jobs a possibility you think ....... how do they rank with International/public school jobs ?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
ed1980



Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: Goyang

PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

one more thing

although we finish in June - we are travelling for a bit and wont be available until November - is there any point in getting the ball rolling now ???
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
smurfetta



Joined: 03 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow! You and your wife sound very qualified for international schools. Can you cut your traveling short and apply for international school jobs that start in August?

Regarding the difference between university and international school job query. I think that they are two completely different career paths. So, it is up to you.

International school jobs are great if you have children. Lots of schools will offer free tuition as part of your package. That's something to think about if you have children or planning on having children.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ed1980



Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: Goyang

PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no - November is the earliest - thanks for your help - got some thinking to do
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
smurfetta



Joined: 03 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No worries. It is possible to find mid school year positions. I've seen January/ February start dates. I always see Maths positions advertised.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ed1980



Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: Goyang

PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok - i will keep looking at those sites you recommended


cheers
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Snowflake



Joined: 12 Dec 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It may be hard to land a university job with no MA here. I'm studying for my PGCE at the moment and from what I can tell, the chances of a primary education certificate being accepted (or required) are slim.
Obviously secondary experience will be valuable but I think most unis ask for an MA now.
Obviously this is opinion - feel free to correct me if anyone has experience of this!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ed1980 wrote:
so uni jobs a possibility you think ....... how do they rank with International/public school jobs ?


About 1/2 the pay (compared to an international school) unless you hold relevant MA's and/or ABD/PhD and much shorter in the benefits package (airfare, housing, etc).

At your level of qualifications and experience the ranking in terms of pay/benefits would be:

1) international school
2) foreign language high school
3) public school
4) University

4b) hagwans... you may get a better pay package (monthly gross salary) than most universities that hire BAs (even with QTS) but in terms of additional benefits vs workload and paid time off they aren't even in the running.

.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> Job-related Discussion Forum All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Goto page 1, 2  Next
Page 1 of 2

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


This page is maintained by the one and only Dave Sperling.
Contact Dave's ESL Cafe
Copyright © 2018 Dave Sperling. All Rights Reserved.

Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group

TEFL International Supports Dave's ESL Cafe
TEFL Courses, TESOL Course, English Teaching Jobs - TEFL International