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hondaicivic
Joined: 01 Jul 2010 Location: Daegu, South Korea
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highstreet
Joined: 13 Nov 2010
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 5:57 am Post subject: |
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was that woman at 5:36 putting up 15KG db's or 15lbs on incline?
I hope its 15lbs, otherwise i feel like a weakling  |
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RMNC

Joined: 21 Jul 2010
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 6:20 am Post subject: |
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Allow me to throw out a semi-unpopular opinion: Korea is right.
It's America and western civilization that has grown to accept being fat as just "being chubby". The scale is skewed for people in the west, and people in Korea, almost by accident or social influence, have a normal idea of what being overweight is. |
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interestedinhanguk

Joined: 23 Aug 2010
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 6:24 am Post subject: |
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RMNC wrote: |
Allow me to throw out a semi-unpopular opinion: Korea is right.
It's America and western civilization that has grown to accept being fat as just "being chubby". The scale is skewed for people in the west, and people in Korea, almost by accident or social influence, have a normal idea of what being overweight is. |
Do you have any Korean female friends, particularly those in their 20s or 30s? (I think it continues beyond this, but maybe not to the same degree) |
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RMNC

Joined: 21 Jul 2010
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 6:27 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, I have probably more female friends (in Hanguk, terms, of course) in that age range than most people. Sure, they care a lot about there looks, but they're still right: People see first with their eyes and then with their ears and minds. If there were two clones with the same personalities and experience, and one was better looking, people would go to that one instinctively. Being 15 lbs overweight would be near god-like for the past million years of human existence, bordering on excess. Now it's considered "baby fat". |
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interestedinhanguk

Joined: 23 Aug 2010
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 6:35 am Post subject: |
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My point is that they're often unhealthy because they don't eat a proper diet. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 7:07 am Post subject: |
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Korea may be the most superficial society in the world. Its certainly unhealthy. There's a kind of inverse gluttony going on.
Comparisons to the West are unhelpful. We're fat beyond hope. |
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hondaicivic
Joined: 01 Jul 2010 Location: Daegu, South Korea
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 7:11 am Post subject: |
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Kuros wrote: |
Korea may be the most superficial society in the world. Its certainly unhealthy. There's a kind of inverse gluttony going on.
Comparisons to the West are unhelpful. We're fat beyond hope. |
Depends where in the western world. Those in North America, UK, Ireland, Australia, New Zealand Western Europe I agree, but definitely not in places like scandinavia, and eastern europe. Women there are still fine in my book. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 7:31 am Post subject: |
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The point is well made: westerners are getting fatter by the year. This is certainly true in NA and in many Western European countries.
Asians are also gaining weight but nearly as fast.
Back here in NA, fat has been replaced by: well rounded, just a bit chubby, curvy, big is beautfiful and so on.
The cuplrit, except for those people with actual diseases (ex:gland condition), is horrible eating habits + lack of exercise + sedentary lifestyle.
No way around it, people back here are getting fat, including kids. Stats do not lie on that account.
There are groups asking for larger seats on buses, airplanes and trains for people that are overweight for example.
Fat has become an interest group to protect overweight people. While this is good when it protects people from verbal abuse, it is bad when it perpetuates a cycle of obesity. |
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interestedinhanguk

Joined: 23 Aug 2010
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 7:48 am Post subject: |
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one, perhaps minor, saving grace from back home is that there is at least some emphasis on strength and other physical fitness. Here in Korea, particularly for women, this is not important. I'm sure we know plenty of Korean women who can't lift 10 pounds (maybe an exaggeration, but you get my point).
Obesity is quite a serious problem in NA. Let us not forget, however, it is better to be a bit overweight and exercise regularly than it is to be thin and not exercise.
Lots of people here in Korea are no healthy. People, particularly women, keep their weight down just by eating extremely little; not by living a healthy lifestyle that balances a well-rounded diet and regular exercise. |
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sadguy
Joined: 13 Feb 2011
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 8:11 am Post subject: |
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westerners are too accepting of being fat and koreans are too critical. there needs to be a balance.
there was some law, maybe a year ago that passed in japan about being overweight.
but you know, trying to stay thin in america is difficult, it's like everything is set up for you to be fat. |
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West Coast Tatterdemalion
Joined: 31 Aug 2010
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 9:06 am Post subject: |
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Yes, balance is necessary. Still not a fan of the Korean mentality that anorexic thin is considered beautiful. It isn't. |
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MyNameIsNobody
Joined: 12 Jan 2011 Location: Here
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 9:55 am Post subject: there's nothing wrong with you guys!!... |
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sadguy wrote: |
westerners are too accepting of being fat and koreans are too critical. there needs to be a balance.
there was some law, maybe a year ago that passed in japan about being overweight.
but you know, trying to stay thin in america is difficult, it's like everything is set up for you to be fat. |
I remember watching My Name Is Sam Soon some years ago, and while every character was saying "Sam Soon is fat," I was thinking, "Are any of you familiar with BMI?"
Being overweight is generally a bad thing but so is being underweight. While it is possible to have a low BMI and still be healthy, I do wonder if this is the case for people who achieve or are trying to achieve a smaller size. At one point, the reporter in the video says, "...people now sacrifice sleep and meals in order to improve their physical aspects" (starts 5:10 in the video).
Eating disorder is definitely a term that crops up in Western culture, and I wonder to what extent this term appears in Korea, particularly within the classroom. Or if this term isn't specifically used, to what extent is balance suggested? (I've come across a lot of examples of "s-line/choco-abs.") |
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MyNameIsNobody
Joined: 12 Jan 2011 Location: Here
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Louis VI
Joined: 05 Jul 2010 Location: In my Kingdom
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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BMI 23 is overweight? 6'1 tall and 175 lbs is a bit overweight? |
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