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fred zepplin
Joined: 21 Sep 2010
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 6:24 pm Post subject: Vaccinations? |
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| Is it necessary or advisable to get any form of vaccinations before arriving in Korea. I recently mentioned to my doctor I was moving to Korea and he advised me to get 2 vaccinations, one was for hepatitis, can't remember the other. He checked it online, I know he's not the kind of guy just trying to screw me. Any experience or thoughts on the subject |
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pangaea

Joined: 20 Dec 2007
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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| You need to have your Hepatitis vaccinations, including the series of 3 shots which I think is for Hepatitis B. I think a vaccination for Japanese encephalitis is recommended but not necessary. I don't know many people who have had that one. I checked into it, but it was very expensive and only available in a city 3 hours away from me, so I never got it. Other than that, you should make sure your childhood immunizations are up to date, of course. I can't think of any other vaccines you would need. I don't remember getting anything special before coming over. |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Location: Yap
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Vaccinations are up to you. None are officially required. |
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ED209
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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Hepatitis B is high in South Korea. If you can't finish the vaccinations at home you can get them here.
You may also want to consider getting a flu vaccine in Sep/Oct if you're working with snotty little ones. |
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DorkothyParker

Joined: 11 Apr 2009 Location: Jeju
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Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 12:44 am Post subject: |
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| I haven't had any vaccination/shot since I was 8 and moved to America (1991). Being in Korea won't really increase your chance of catching something compared to back home, I don't think. |
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L&MaC's
Joined: 01 Jan 2011 Location: Ittoqqortoormiit
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Hindsight
Joined: 02 Feb 2009
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Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 2:12 am Post subject: |
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| DorkothyParker wrote: |
| I haven't had any vaccination/shot since I was 8 and moved to America (1991). Being in Korea won't really increase your chance of catching something compared to back home, I don't think. |
You think wrong. Besides, even in America adults need vaccinations.
And don't count on finding a free clinic like Yongsan in every city.
http://english.yongsan.go.kr/pms/contents/contents.do?contseqn=886&sitecdv=S0001501&menucdv=03100000&decorator=user15En
Hepatitis A and B are rare in America, but relatively common elsewhere. It's interesting that the Yongsan clinic does not offer Hepatitis A vaccinations; perhaps Koreans don't need it because it is so common they develop immunity in childhood. Well, if you get it, you could be bedridden for the better part of a year.
Hepatitis A is spread through fecal-oral contamination, meaning a food worker who is infected and doesn't wash their hands and then handles food can make you sick. How many Korean public bathrooms have you seen that have soap or toilet paper? And if raw sewage comes in contact with seafood and that seafood is not thoroughly cooked, you can get sick. (You know Koreans are paranoid about tap water; hep A is probably one of the reasons, at least historically. Ditto for wrapped candy and snacks; don't accept unwrapped food handed you by children.)
Guess what one of the first things Koreans are going to serve you? Raw fish and shellfish. You need your hepatitis A vaccination before you come to Korea. You need a second one in about a year, and then you will have protection for about 10 years. Some suggest a third one.
In Korea a Hep A vaccination cost me 40,000 won. They are not cheap, if you can find them.
If you are in a big city, you should be able to find vaccinations, but not necessarily in a smaller town. In the smaller city I moved to none of the doctors had vaccines, and neither did the community clinic or local small hospital. I was told to go to a pediatrician, who didn't speak English.
Also, in the first small city, the doctor refused to give me a Hepatitis B vaccination. He claimed it was against Korean policy to give hep B vaccinations over a certain age. This did not make sense at the time. Apparently, they figured since it takes 10 or 20 or 30 years to kill you, why bother? Why? Because if you are infected, you can spread it to others, aside from being sick yourself and suffering for years. Korean logic.
Hepatitis B is fairly common in east Asia. You know how Koreans love to share food and saliva? Well, in the past doctors used the same needles without sterilization on numerous patients, not just in Korea but China and elsewhere. Hepatitis B is also spread by sex; someone infected may have no symptoms and may not even know they have it, until their liver starts to fail. And there is no cure. (Your chances of getting hep B from a Korean are much higher than a foreign teacher giving a Korean HIV.)
The prevalence if hep B in east Asians is one reason they are pushing hep B vaccinations in America; it is common in Asian immigrants, and they are afraid it could spread.
You need three hep B shots over 12 months to develop full immunity.
An adult booster for tetanus and polio are also recommended.
While vaccinations are safe, I'm not sure I would recommend getting five shots in one day, so plan ahead.
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grandpa
Joined: 19 Oct 2009
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Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 2:47 am Post subject: |
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While vaccinations are safe, I'm not sure I would recommend getting five shots in one day, so plan ahead. |
Where do you get the idea that vaccinations are safe?
"Children injected with the Pandemrix swine flu vaccine were nine times more likely to contract narcolepsy than those who were not vaccinated, a preliminary study by Finland's National Institute for Health and Welfare, THL, showed Tuesday."
-- http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110201/hl_afp/finlandhealthfluvaccinechild |
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Hindsight
Joined: 02 Feb 2009
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Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 3:01 am Post subject: |
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| grandpa wrote: |
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While vaccinations are safe, I'm not sure I would recommend getting five shots in one day, so plan ahead. |
Where do you get the idea that vaccinations are safe?
"Children injected with the Pandemrix swine flu vaccine were nine times more likely to contract narcolepsy than those who were not vaccinated, a preliminary study by Finland's National Institute for Health and Welfare, THL, showed Tuesday."
-- http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110201/hl_afp/finlandhealthfluvaccinechild |
Hey Grandpa, do us all a big favor and do not get ANY vaccinations. I'm a big believer in Darwinian natural selection, in you case. |
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Devil's Harvest
Joined: 31 Oct 2004 Location: House of Knives
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Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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While I would never discourage anyone from getting a vaccine if they have a mind to do so, don't be overly paranoid about picking up horrible diseases in Asia, or in Korea in particular.
Vaccinating against Hep A and B is a good idea, but don't panic if you don't get it done, or are leery of vaccinations in general.
Hep A can be contracted through contaminated food and water, which is possible (but still unlikely) in Korea, but more of a risk in SE Asia. It has flu-like symptoms which show up a few weeks after infection, but it will simply run its course in nearly all people, conferring immunity to any subsequent infection. Only those with already compromised immune systems are at risk of complications from Hep A.
Hep B, which is more dangerous, is contracted through contact with bodily fluids, much the same as HIV. Unless you plan on riding bare-back through the alleys of Itaewon, Hep B is entirely preventable without a vaccination, and likely the least of your worries if you wake up next to a stranger after a "special night" with no wrinkled-up jimmy on the floor. Hep B can be chronic is a very small percentage of cases (less than 1%), leading to complications and possible permanent liver damage. However, most people just feel like crap for a couple of weeks, and then their bodies fight off the Hep B, conferring life-long immunity afterward.
There is a misconception in the west that Hepatitis A and especially type B are extremely dangerous (Hep C is very dangerous). Studies show that upwards of 70% of Asians have been exposed to Hep A and/or B. If it were really so deadly, there wouldn't be 4 billion people on this continent. However I have a friend who caught Hep A while traveling in Vietnam. Symptoms didn't show up until his first week back in Korea. He felt awful for a few days, but it cleared itself up. Doctors just have him some stuff to help him keep food down, and told him to rest. Sucks to get sick, no need to start writing out your will if you pick up Hep A or B.
The Japanese encephalitis vaccine is certainly a good idea if you plan on spending a good amount of time in SE Asia. Don't worry about malaria pills unless you plan on trekking through the darkest jungles. The pills can really mess you up, and are completely unnecessary if you are going for a fun holiday, and not a hard core eco-adventure.
Bottom line: vaccinations are good, but if you are hesitant about getting the shots, understand that your chances of being splattered all over the road by a bus in Korea are a thousand times higher than being killed by a disease. And there are so far no vaccinations against buses that I know of. |
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grandpa
Joined: 19 Oct 2009
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Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Devil's Harvest wrote: |
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Bottom line: vaccinations are good, but if you are hesitant about getting the shots, understand that your chances of being splattered all over the road by a bus in Korea are a thousand times higher than being killed by a disease. And there are so far no vaccinations against buses that I know of. |
Good for who?
"The current data shows that vaccines are much more dangerous than the public is lead to believe and adequate testing has never been performed even in healthy subjects to indicate that there is an overall improvement in health from immunization. ..." says Dr. J. Barthelow Classen.
source - http://www.reuters.com/article/2008/04/04/idUS88745+04-Apr-2008+PRN20080404 |
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Devil's Harvest
Joined: 31 Oct 2004 Location: House of Knives
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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:45 am Post subject: |
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| grandpa wrote: |
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Bottom line: vaccinations are good, but if you are hesitant about getting the shots, understand that your chances of being splattered all over the road by a bus in Korea are a thousand times higher than being killed by a disease. And there are so far no vaccinations against buses that I know of. |
Good for who?
"The current data shows that vaccines are much more dangerous than the public is lead to believe and adequate testing has never been performed even in healthy subjects to indicate that there is an overall improvement in health from immunization. ..." says Dr. J. Barthelow Classen.
source - http://www.reuters.com/article/2008/04/04/idUS88745+04-Apr-2008+PRN20080404 |
I guess we don't see people dying by the million of smallpox or being wretchedly crippled by polio because those diseases and their ilk all decided they had proved their point to humanity and moved to Cabo to rest on their laurels. |
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interestedinhanguk

Joined: 23 Aug 2010
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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:48 am Post subject: |
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| I've only ever heard of Japanese Encephalitis vaccines being recommended if you're going to spend extensive amounts of time out in the rice paddies of SE Asia. Outside of that, there is little risk. I went on a 3-month trip there and the doctor insisted I didn't need it. |
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earthquakez
Joined: 10 Nov 2010
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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:18 am Post subject: |
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I agree with Grandpa in principal.
I understand that certain diseases have been eradicated in our countries (or were until relatively recently because Asians, Africans and other people who weren't around in great numbers until the last few decades have brought back those diseases - just stating a fact especially in relation to an upsurge in diseases such as TB in the UK from people coming from African and Asian countries) because of vaccinations.
However, in the case of influenza of any kind, it is not the best idea to vaccinate en masse. Flu vaccinations have all sorts of things you'd never dream they contained - like the 'swine flu' vaccination which in most countries including Korea was not trialled properly and included cancer cells from mice. Flu would not be an issue in developed countries if there did not exist the widespread over prescription of antibiotics which simply means flu strains mutate in response and get stronger.
If people in normal health develop their immunity to flu by not taking strong stuff like antibiotics, there will be few problems or no cause for the panic that accompanied the 'swine flu epidemic'. I haven't had any form of the flu since I was 16 and that's largely because I do not take antibiotics for anything unless there is a genuine infection that can't be cleared up without them such as when I developed blood poisoning one time in Taiwan.
I let coughs, colds and chest infections take care of themselves. They always go away soon because I have developed my immunity through strictly limiting medication of any kind. I have never caught flu back home in the UK and I didn't during the swine flu panic.
In fact Tamiflu was around well before the recent swine flu outbreaks and I believe its use and overuse, especially in Japan, has contributed to flu spreading and mutating.
It's also significant that Dick Cheney and co from George Bush's govt had heavy investments in the companies that made and distributed Tamiflu, and the huge piles of unused Tamiflu sitting around various countries had to be used up so there was also pressure to take medication like that as well as have swine flu vaccinations despite the main version not being properly trialled in a number of countries. |
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Sam Lowry
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 9:36 am Post subject: |
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I agree with Grandpa in principal.
I understand that certain diseases have been eradicated in our countries (or were until relatively recently because Asians, Africans and other people who weren't around in great numbers until the last few decades have brought back those diseases - just stating a fact especially in relation to an upsurge in diseases such as TB in the UK from people coming from African and Asian countries) because of vaccinations.
However, in the case of influenza of any kind, it is not the best idea to vaccinate en masse. Flu vaccinations have all sorts of things you'd never dream they contained - like the 'swine flu' vaccination which in most countries including Korea was not trialled properly and included cancer cells from mice. Flu would not be an issue in developed countries if there did not exist the widespread over prescription of antibiotics which simply means flu strains mutate in response and get stronger.
If people in normal health develop their immunity to flu by not taking strong stuff like antibiotics, there will be few problems or no cause for the panic that accompanied the 'swine flu epidemic'. I haven't had any form of the flu since I was 16 and that's largely because I do not take antibiotics for anything unless there is a genuine infection that can't be cleared up without them such as when I developed blood poisoning one time in Taiwan.
I let coughs, colds and chest infections take care of themselves. They always go away soon because I have developed my immunity through strictly limiting medication of any kind. I have never caught flu back home in the UK and I didn't during the swine flu panic.
In fact Tamiflu was around well before the recent swine flu outbreaks and I believe its use and overuse, especially in Japan, has contributed to flu spreading and mutating.
It's also significant that Dick Cheney and co from George Bush's govt had heavy investments in the companies that made and distributed Tamiflu, and the huge piles of unused Tamiflu sitting around various countries had to be used up so there was also pressure to take medication like that as well as have swine flu vaccinations despite the main version not being properly trialled in a number of countries. |
Wow, epic fail.
OP, welcome to Korea. Dave's is a great resource when you have a "Where can I buy X in Busan?" kind of question, but coming here for medical advice is a bit like playing Russian Roulette: there's a pretty good chance that the folks dishing out vaccine advice can't even tell viruses from bacteria. And if you listen to anonymous posters on the internet instead of your doctor, you have only yourself to blame for the consequences.
Your best bet is to consult a specialist but there are some useful resources on the internet, like the Centers for Disease Control:
http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/destinations/south-korea.aspx |
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