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sojusucks



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 12:24 am    Post subject: Anyang team has a Czech hockey star Reply with quote

Yes, there is an "Asian League" and you can look up the "Anyang Halla" on facebook to see their schedule.

http://www.koreaherald.com/national/Detail.jsp?newsMLId=20110114000664
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jvalmer



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 1:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wouldn't call him a star, he never played in the NHL. He barely played 1 year in the Russian league.
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Louis VI



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

5-time Stanley Cup champion, three-time Selke trophy finalist and all-time great superpest Esa Tikkanen played for Anyang Halla a few years ago, and also was a co-coach of the team at the same time. I've seen him and two other NHLers play here. I haven't followed the league the last couple of years though. If hyping a third rate Euro is the best they've got now then there's been a real reduction in talent.
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Mort



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Martinec doesn't currently play for the team, he's an assistant coach, but when he did play he was easily one of the team's better players. He had a much better impact on the team than Tikkanen. From what I read Tikkanen believed he'd lead the league in scoring, but he couldn't even crack the top three on Halla.

The imports on Halla are all about ECHL level. They're not prospects, but they are pros and have a fair amount of experience.

There's been a handful of guys this year in the league with NHL experience.
Probably the two best known players in the league this year were Alex Bourret, a former first round pick of the Atlanta Thrashers, and Yutaka Fukufuji a former LA Kings goalie and the first Japanese trained player to play in the NHL.

The hockey isn't bad. Probably not as good as Canadian University Hockey. The fans are quite supportive and it's rather fast paced. There's a fair amount of hitting, but most of the play is gentlemanly.

If you're a fan of hockey at all, it's worth going to check out.
There's two games left in Halla's season this weekend, both against Korean rival High1, one at home and one at High1.

Does anyone know how the playoffs work in the Asia League?
My understanding is that the first round is a best of five featuring the top five teams in the league. The first three home games are at the higher seed's rink. Halla is the fourth ranked team which means if they get swept in the playoffs, they won't play a home playoff game. Does anyone know if this is accurate?
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sojusucks



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This youtube poster has posted some videos of the Anyang Halla

http://www.youtube.com/user/DerJon01
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Mort



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want an up to date schedule, I'd avoid facebook and stick to their official website: http://www.anyanghalla.com/eng/
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crossmr



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The imports on Halla are all about ECHL level. They're not prospects, but they are pros and have a fair amount of experience.


Both Wood, Fast and Awe have played full seasons in the AHL.

Radunske was drafted by the oilers in the 3rd round.

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Probably the two best known players in the league this year were Alex Bourret,

Bourret was a goon. He averaged 6.5 minutes in penalties a game getting a misconduct basically every other game. High1 eventually booted him out, though he made up a story as to why he went home. He was on track to set the all time penalty in minutes record for the league had he not been sent packing.

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Does anyone know how the playoffs work in the Asia League?
My understanding is that the first round is a best of five featuring the top five teams in the league. The first three home games are at the higher seed's rink. Halla is the fourth ranked team which means if they get swept in the playoffs, they won't play a home playoff game. Does anyone know if this is accurate?

Top 4 now, best of 5, first 3 at the top ranked team's rink to cut back on travel. If the Freeblades don't do well this weekend Halla could potentially move to third but that doesn't help them at all.

Halla won the championship last year, but the loss of Martinec and their goalie hasn't helped them. Korea doesn't consider ice hockey a real sport so even though they were champions, the goalie got sent off to military service. If only he'd been playing field hockey instead. Points are down across the board with only a couple players maintaining their average from last year. The High1 game is in Goyang, depending on where peopel live it's just as accessible as Anyang from Seoul. Where I am, its about an hour to either place. The Goyang rink is nice, worth going up and seeing once if you've never been there. Much bigger than halla's rink. Much better than their ghetto rink out in chuncheon which didn't even have netting last time I was out there.

I was back in Canada at Christmas and caught a Quebec Major Junior game in my home town and frankly the game at Anyang was better. The crowd was dead, the announcer was useless, and every time the puck was in the corner they'd show ads for insurance on the big screen.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Schedule:

http://www.anyanghalla.com/eng/MatchCenter/e_gameschedule.asp?GameDate=2/19/2011
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PEIGUY



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

crossmr wrote:
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The imports on Halla are all about ECHL level. They're not prospects, but they are pros and have a fair amount of experience.


Both Wood, Fast and Awe have played full seasons in the AHL.

Radunske was drafted by the oilers in the 3rd round.

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Probably the two best known players in the league this year were Alex Bourret,

Bourret was a goon. He averaged 6.5 minutes in penalties a game getting a misconduct basically every other game. High1 eventually booted him out, though he made up a story as to why he went home. He was on track to set the all time penalty in minutes record for the league had he not been sent packing.

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Does anyone know how the playoffs work in the Asia League?
My understanding is that the first round is a best of five featuring the top five teams in the league. The first three home games are at the higher seed's rink. Halla is the fourth ranked team which means if they get swept in the playoffs, they won't play a home playoff game. Does anyone know if this is accurate?

Top 4 now, best of 5, first 3 at the top ranked team's rink to cut back on travel. If the Freeblades don't do well this weekend Halla could potentially move to third but that doesn't help them at all.

Halla won the championship last year, but the loss of Martinec and their goalie hasn't helped them. Korea doesn't consider ice hockey a real sport so even though they were champions, the goalie got sent off to military service. If only he'd been playing field hockey instead. Points are down across the board with only a couple players maintaining their average from last year. The High1 game is in Goyang, depending on where peopel live it's just as accessible as Anyang from Seoul. Where I am, its about an hour to either place. The Goyang rink is nice, worth going up and seeing once if you've never been there. Much bigger than halla's rink. Much better than their ghetto rink out in chuncheon which didn't even have netting last time I was out there.

I was back in Canada at Christmas and caught a Quebec Major Junior game in my home town and frankly the game at Anyang was better. The crowd was dead, the announcer was useless, and every time the puck was in the corner they'd show ads for insurance on the big screen.


would the ice rink in Goyang be part of the big sports complex near Hwajeong Station? I remember seeing a High 1 banner at that rink when I was skating with my students
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crossmr



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

probably, I usually go to wondang station on line 3.

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jvalmer



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

crossmr wrote:
Korea doesn't consider ice hockey a real sport so even though they were champions, the goalie got sent off to military service. If only he'd been playing field hockey instead.

Nothing to do with what sport, more do to if they win anything that brings Korea fame. Choo Shin-Soo, of the Cleveland Indians, was under threat of military service until Korea won the gold at the most recent Asian games.
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crossmr



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jvalmer wrote:
crossmr wrote:
Korea doesn't consider ice hockey a real sport so even though they were champions, the goalie got sent off to military service. If only he'd been playing field hockey instead.

Nothing to do with what sport, more do to if they win anything that brings Korea fame. Choo Shin-Soo, of the Cleveland Indians, was under threat of military service until Korea won the gold at the most recent Asian games.

No, it's the sport. The Korean government has a list of sports they consider championships to be valid in. Ice Hockey is not one of those sports. It's an international championship as the league consists of teams from Japan and China. Had the sport been on their list, it would have counted. It doesn't just have to be gold medals at the olympics/asia games.
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jvalmer



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crossmr wrote:
jvalmer wrote:
crossmr wrote:
Korea doesn't consider ice hockey a real sport so even though they were champions, the goalie got sent off to military service. If only he'd been playing field hockey instead.

Nothing to do with what sport, more do to if they win anything that brings Korea fame. Choo Shin-Soo, of the Cleveland Indians, was under threat of military service until Korea won the gold at the most recent Asian games.

No, it's the sport. The Korean government has a list of sports they consider championships to be valid in. Ice Hockey is not one of those sports. It's an international championship as the league consists of teams from Japan and China. Had the sport been on their list, it would have counted. It doesn't just have to be gold medals at the olympics/asia games.

I worked with a PE teacher that was a track and field guy and he was exempted for winning some Asian U-19 medal. Also, that league is still a league that determines a champion every single year, and all the players on the team don't need to be citizens of the home country. It would be like saying the Stanley Cup finals is an international championship because it includes teams from the USA and Canada. But you could be right, however if Korea were ever to win a world championship in hockey in the top division, not tier 3 or 4, then I'd bet you they'd get exempted (however that will never happen).
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jvalmer wrote:

I worked with a PE teacher that was a track and field guy and he was exempted for winning some Asian U-19 medal. Also, that league is still a league that determines a champion every single year, and all the players on the team don't need to be citizens of the home country. It would be like saying the Stanley Cup finals is an international championship because it includes teams from the USA and Canada. But you could be right, however if Korea were ever to win a world championship in hockey in the top division, not tier 3 or 4, then I'd bet you they'd get exempted (however that will never happen).


That Stanley cup Championship is an international championship. How else would you describe it? Is it a world championship? No, but it's international. If they were to win a gold at the asia games, it probably would have counted for them, but that would have been based on the fact that it was a gold at the games, not on the sport itself. My friend in Anyang knows the guy in question, so he's quite sure on why he's been sent to military. But at least he got civilian duty, he has a wife and kid already.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a league championship. I don't know why you'd think he could be exempted for winning some league championship? Most Korean athletes have to fulfill their military duties anyways, he's not special and not even close to a star in his chosen sport.
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