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catman



Joined: 18 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2011 2:52 pm    Post subject: Koryo-saram Reply with quote

Anyone know any Koreans from the former Soviet Union? I had no idea there were so many.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koryo-saram

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The 19th century saw the decline of the Joseon Dynasty of Korea. A small population of wealthy elite owned the farmlands in the country, and poor peasants found it difficult to survive. Koreans leaving the country in this period were obliged to move toward Russia, as the border with China was sealed by the Qing Dynasty.[7] However, the first Koreans in the Russian Empire, 761 families totalling 5,310 people, had actually migrated to Qing territory; the land they had settled on was ceded to Russia by the Convention of Peking in 1860.[8] Many peasants considered Siberia to be a land where they could lead better lives, and so they subsequently migrated there. As early as 1863, 13 Korean households were recorded near Novukorut Bay. These numbers rose dramatically, and by 1869 Koreans composed 20% of the population of the Maritime Province.[7] Prior to the completion of the Trans-Siberian Railway, Koreans outnumbered Russians in the Russian Far East; the local governors encouraged them to naturalize.[9] The village of Blagoslovennoe was founded in 1870 by Korean migrants.[10] The 1897 Russian Empire Census found 26,005 Korean speakers (16,225 men and 9,780 women) in the whole of Russia.[11]


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In 1937, facing reports from the NKVD that the Japanese had infiltrated the Russian Far East by means of ethnic Korean spies, Joseph Stalin and Vyacheslav Molotov signed Resolution 1428-326 ss, "On the Exile of the Korean Population from border Raions of the Far East Kray", on 21 August.[14] This order gave Koreans the option of crossing the border into Manchukuo or Japanese-ruled Korea, or face administrative exile to Central Asia. Few took the former option. According to the report of Nikolai Yezhov, 36,442 Korean families totalling 171,781 persons were deported by 25 October.[15] The deported Koreans faced difficult conditions in Central Asia: monetary assistance promised by the government never materialised, and furthermore, most of the deported were rice farmers and fishers, who had difficulty adapting to the arid climate of their new home. Estimates based on population statistics suggest that 40,000 deported Koreans died in 1937 and 1938 for these reasons.


Edit: Back in 2004 I was working in Sintangin (just outside of Daejeon). I was pushing my cart in a grocery store and I could hear Russian being spoken in the next aisle. To my surprise it was a Korean family!
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highstreet



Joined: 13 Nov 2010

PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2011 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know of one. She looks somewhat Korean, but she has freckles.

IIRC some hugely famous russian guitarist/singer is/was Korean. ive heard hes like considered a god over there
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thrylos



Joined: 10 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2011 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've known a few from working at a uni in Seoul-- Alexandrrrrr Kim, Evgeniy Park, Basil Lee, etc.... Mostly from Kazakhstan/Uzbekistan, a couple from Russia proper. They got scholarships to attend Korean uni from the gov't, this was a few years back...Really interesting ethinic group-- far better in English (and Russian, of course) than Korean (!!), at least the ones I knew.

They hung out a lot in the central Asian/Russian neighborhoods around Dongdaemun. When I asked them if they like soju, what they did over the weekend, etc, they replied Not soju, no-- Vodka teacher, vodka, fried chicken and Russian porno on internet. Awesome group, really got other K-freshmen confused Embarassed Shocked
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NohopeSeriously



Joined: 17 Jan 2011
Location: The Christian Right-Wing Educational Republic of Korea

PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My father's side of the family (my grandpa's second cousins) used to live in Primorsky Krai in the USSR. Apparently most of their kids still live in Altamy in Kazakhstan.

Yet 1/3 of my mother's second cousins moved to Japan right after the Korean War. And their kids still live in Osaka.
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Jake_Kim



Joined: 27 Aug 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

highstreet wrote:
IIRC some hugely famous russian guitarist/singer is/was Korean. ive heard hes like considered a god over there


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Tsoi
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NohopeSeriously



Joined: 17 Jan 2011
Location: The Christian Right-Wing Educational Republic of Korea

PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Russian is the fastest-growing L1 European language in Korea thanks to the horde of Central Asian workers and Koryo-saram.
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