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Bringing my husband and my dog- Is it possible?

 
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homewardbound



Joined: 01 Mar 2011

PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 11:48 am    Post subject: Bringing my husband and my dog- Is it possible? Reply with quote

I have been investigating and reading all the forums for the past few weeks but have found a lot of conflicting answers. I would like to start teaching in August or September of this year but I am not sure if I have too much going against me.
1. I am an American living in Spain with Spanish residency. The Korean embassy told me that they could issue me an E2 visa from here. I think my paper work might be a little more complicated, but feasible with the help from my family state side. Has anyone ever applied while living abroad?
2. I am married to a Spanish citizen so he won't be able to teach. Will schools allow him to live with me if he isn't working for the school?
3. I am planning on coming over first and then having him follow a few months later with our small dog. I originally wanted to teach for EPIK but just read in the Spring contract that pets are not allowed- so that is out. I prefer to teach for a public school but really would take anything if it means that they allow my husband and dog to live with me.
I know that bringing over my husband and my dog will be my responsibility and I will have to cover all the costs and figure everything out. I don�t mind any of that- I just want to know if schools will even give me a chance.
I have been teaching ESL for many years and plan on moving to Korea for hopefully an extended period of time.
If anyone has an insight on any of these points I would really appreciate it.
Thanks again
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RMNC



Joined: 21 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as I know, the only problem would be if he wouldn't be able to go with you any longer than a 90 day tourist visa. Without sponsorship by a company and an E-2 visa (which Spanish citizens can't get) he may not be a legal alien and risks deportation and fines if he's there over his tourist visa limit. Being married to an American citizen might change that, however. It also could not mean anything. I'll let someone with more knowledge on marriage and visas comment.

Having a dog is hard enough in a tiny apartment, even a small one. Most Korean apartments, even for 2 people, are shoeboxes unless you find a place out in the boondocks. That's the main reason I would not want a pet in Korea, there's not even enough space for 2 people in one place, let alone both of them and a dog. At least, I know I would lose my sanity.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Bringing my husband and my dog- Is it possible? Reply with quote

homewardbound wrote:
I have been investigating and reading all the forums for the past few weeks but have found a lot of conflicting answers. I would like to start teaching in August or September of this year but I am not sure if I have too much going against me.
1. I am an American living in Spain with Spanish residency. The Korean embassy told me that they could issue me an E2 visa from here. I think my paper work might be a little more complicated, but feasible with the help from my family state side. Has anyone ever applied while living abroad?
2. I am married to a Spanish citizen so he won't be able to teach. Will schools allow him to live with me if he isn't working for the school?
3. I am planning on coming over first and then having him follow a few months later with our small dog. I originally wanted to teach for EPIK but just read in the Spring contract that pets are not allowed- so that is out. I prefer to teach for a public school but really would take anything if it means that they allow my husband and dog to live with me.
I know that bringing over my husband and my dog will be my responsibility and I will have to cover all the costs and figure everything out. I don�t mind any of that- I just want to know if schools will even give me a chance.
I have been teaching ESL for many years and plan on moving to Korea for hopefully an extended period of time.
If anyone has an insight on any of these points I would really appreciate it.
Thanks again


1) Yes, I have. No problem and if you have legal residence in the 3rd country it is no different than applying from home. Often, it is easier after you get the paperwork in order.

2) If you are legally married (you will need a copy of your marriage license to prove it) and your husband gets an F3 visa then no problem. In the case of a hagwan, the housing may be pretty small (22sq.m).

3) Don't even mention the husband and the dog if they are going to follow you rather than accompany you. It is a non-issue to the application process.

After you get your ARC you simply apply for a visa confirmation number for your husband. He gets his visa (a painless process) and he (along with the dog) joins you.

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thekingofcheap



Joined: 09 Sep 2010
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're marreid to a Spanish citizen, why on earth would you ever come to Korea? You can move to the EU and teach there with your years of experience. Korea is for inexperienced people with comparatively low salary expectations.
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ssuprnova



Joined: 17 Dec 2010
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:26 am    Post subject: Re: Bringing my husband and my dog- Is it possible? Reply with quote

homewardbound wrote:
1. I am an American living in Spain with Spanish residency.


I guess that the grass is always greener on the other side.
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homewardbound



Joined: 01 Mar 2011

PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

First off thank you all for answering.

Ttompatz your reply was really helpful. I have a question about the last thing.

3) Don't even mention the husband and the dog if they are going to follow you rather than accompany you. It is a non-issue to the application process.

Do you mean that I shouldn't mention it only in the initial application process, and then tell them during the interview? Are you talking about with recruiters, public schools, or hagwagons? I am a little weary about not mentioning it at all, and then getting an apartment that doesn't allow pets. I know that I will probably lose out on some jobs, but I hope that it won't be impossible. Thanks again for your comments-it makes me feel better that someone has gone there while also living abroad.

To the king of cheap-
Spain really isn't much different. I have only taught here, mostly in Madrid, so I can't speak for the rest of Europe. The salary is not high, even with a lot of experience, and the cost of living here is out of control. You can get by, but by no means can you save money and live comfortably. Well, you can but it takes a few years. Spain is about who you know not what you know. It is also filled with a lot of inexperienced teachers- but we all had to start somewhere. And residency really isn't necessary. There are only a few places where it is- outside of big cities. It is true that I have had more options when picking a job, but a lot of my friends work illegally and have jobs- especially in Madrid. If you ever want to make the change let me know and I could give you some pointers.

I want to go to Korea... well because it's Korea. I am not too worried about money. I am not saying I don't like money, but I have gotten used to not having any money while living here. I have come to terms with the fact that with this job your are not going to get rich. l also don't mind living in a shoe box. I think I am aware of some of the negative aspects of Korea, but I want to see another part of the world. We are a young couple and are willing to sacrifice some comforts in order to have the experience, but not our dog! I want to see Buddhist temples and just experience a culture completely different.

So if anyone else has any more advice or personal experience please let me know!
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

homewardbound wrote:
First off thank you all for answering.

Ttompatz your reply was really helpful. I have a question about the last thing.

3) Don't even mention the husband and the dog if they are going to follow you rather than accompany you. It is a non-issue to the application process.

Do you mean that I shouldn't mention it only in the initial application process, and then tell them during the interview? Are you talking about with recruiters, public schools, or hagwagons? I am a little weary about not mentioning it at all, and then getting an apartment that doesn't allow pets. I know that I will probably lose out on some jobs, but I hope that it won't be impossible. Thanks again for your comments-it makes me feel better that someone has gone there while also living abroad.


No. I mean don't mention it. It is not relevant to the process and they won't be accompanying you to Korea. They will be following and you can make a judgment about arrangements and/or make changes after you are here.

If you are going to a public school they don't care if you are married or single. Yes, I know the contract says you will get bigger accommodation if you are married but it won't happen unless you are BOTH teaching at the same school. You will get what they have whether you are married or not; whether your husband is with your or not.

As to the dog. If it is a small ankle biter then no worry. EVERY apartment, from the smallest "villa" to a massive sized-4 tower-24 floor-officetel, I have lived in had at least a few of them.

If it is a medium sized dog then cabin fever is a distinct possibility but still do-able.

If it is a large dog then stay where you are, give it up to a country home or put it down. I know it sounds cruel but bringing a large dog here is cruel unless you manage to get yourself something out in the sticks.

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cyui



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A day late.
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homewardbound



Joined: 01 Mar 2011

PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cyui wrote:
A day late.


A day late for what?

ttompatz
I appreciate you advice, but I think that it wouldn't work for me. I am too nervous about things like that. I prefer to be upfront or else I will be worried everyday that someone will find out my little secret and kick me out of my apartment. There has to be a recruiter out there that would help me find a job that accepts pets. I would have no problem paying a pet deposit or paying extra for a bigger apartment. She is an ankle biter, a very cute one, and I know she wouldn't be a problem but I guess if it comes down to it I could leave her for a year and return earlier than I planned. Actually I probably couldn't. I just hope that my experience outweighs my 10 pound dog. Thanks again for writing back!

Is it possible to change apartments once you get there? Can you pay more to get a bigger place or are you just assigned one and that is it?
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ttompatz



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Little ankle biter it is nothing to worry about.

You are not in the west. Ankle biters are common as house pets (about the same as fish or cage birds) in many apartments and I have never been in an apartment building or villa that didn't allow them.

I would go so far as to say that I would be surprised it there wasn't a puppy beauty parlor within easy walking distance of your apartment if you are in a major metropolitan area.

Landlord tenant issue = not.

The only concern would be the paperwork and potential for quarantine of your pet. I don't know about the rules for bringing pets from Europe to Korea.

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homewardbound



Joined: 01 Mar 2011

PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
Little ankle biter it is nothing to worry about.

You are not in the west. Ankle biters are common as house pets (about the same as fish or cage birds) in many apartments and I have never been in an apartment building or villa that didn't allow them.

I would go so far as to say that I would be surprised it there wasn't a puppy beauty parlor within easy walking distance of your apartment if you are in a major metropolitan area.

Landlord tenant issue = not.

The only concern would be the paperwork and potential for quarantine of your pet. I don't know about the rules for bringing pets from Europe to Korea.

.


You just made my day! Thank you!
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