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Toby



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: Wedded Bliss

PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2004 9:40 pm    Post subject: Where can I learn English? Reply with quote

Since I have been here and have been teaching children for three years, mu level of english has gone from low to exceptionally low.

Are there are any sites that teach basic structure, parts of speech, grammar etc.?

Example: I am currently learning Korean as well as teaching and we are talkikng about subject particles and object particles.

My english is so poor that the Korean teacher had to try and teach me about what those were and hasn't done a very good job of it thus far.

I need to find a site that has all of that kind of stuff on it as I should really know.

Thanks in advance.
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peppermint



Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.

PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2004 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've always sworn by Purdue University's Online Writing Lab

Great for explaining the fundamentals and lots of exercises for students.
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Toby



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2004 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

peppermint wrote:
I've always sworn by Purdue University's Online Writing Lab

Great for explaining the fundamentals and lots of exercises for students.


Thanks. The sad thing is it is not for students - it is for me!!!! Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad
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TommyPickles



Joined: 19 Apr 2004
Location: Australia

PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2004 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toby, it's perfectly fine and acceptable for that to have happend to you. Having spent the last five years assisting exchange students, I've found that in general conversation these days I dumb down just about everything I said. This is coming from a guy who used to read the dictionary during reading time at high school (sad but true).

Fortunately, spending a year in sunny California and now hanging out with local friends in Australia has raised my diction back to normal status. It's really about challenging yourself, if you're not in such an environment or don't keep it up you will lose it.

Try reading some good books and keep it up. Himnae!~

Cheers
TommyPickles
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap

PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2004 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Youre not gonna learn about subject & object particles on an english grammar website because english doesnt have them. Surely you can identify the subject & object in a sentence -- well, Korean just adds certain endings to identify them. You can call them particles, markers, suffixes, who cares -- theyre pretty simple to apply.

Re: keeping your level of articulation up, the suggestion above to read challenging stuff is good. Writing helps -- longer emails or anything with a native-speaking audience in mind. Should you find yourself in all-western company, let rip! Talk fast & throw in idioms, phrasal verbs, cultural references, & $10 words you learned in university. Really its all still there but you gotta exercise it.

I've been here years but I've never really had trouble flipping this switch one way or the other.
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Son Deureo!



Joined: 30 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2004 5:31 am    Post subject: Re: Where can I learn English? Reply with quote

Toby wrote:
Example: I am currently learning Korean as well as teaching and we are talkikng about subject particles and object particles.

My english is so poor that the Korean teacher had to try and teach me about what those were and hasn't done a very good job of it thus far.



This area of Korean, as basic as it is, will probably continue to plague you for as long as you're learning Korean no matter how advanced you get for the simple reason that these markers are completely foreign to us.

Look at it this way, even the most advanced Korean students of English are constantly screwing up their articles and their countable vs. uncountable nouns. Why would it be any different for us when we try to learn Korean?
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kangnamdragon



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Kangnam, Seoul, Korea

PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2004 6:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Where can I learn English? Reply with quote

Toby wrote:
Since I have been here and have been teaching children for three years, mu level of english has gone from low to exceptionally low.

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Sorry, but if yu level of English was poor when you came, then you should never have taught English in the first place.
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Toby



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: Wedded Bliss

PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2004 7:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Where can I learn English? Reply with quote

kangnamdragon wrote:
Toby wrote:
Since I have been here and have been teaching children for three years, mu level of english has gone from low to exceptionally low.

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Sorry, but if yu level of English was poor when you came, then you should never have taught English in the first place.


Maybe it is just because I am now studying a language, it makes me realise how little I realistically know of my own language.

But then, that knowledge is always more than someone who doesn't know the language and pays me to teach it I suppose.
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