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Some pretty damning evidence Qaddafi is getting desperate now:

1. Boogeyman Osama did it!
2. It's those evil drugs!

Gadhafi: Bin Laden behind Libya uprising

[Junior]

Watching gaddafi over the past 20 years has been pure theatre. A tragi-comedy.

Latest off the press: Gaddafi's son plagiarised to get his phD. lol
http://saifalislamgaddafithesis.wikia.com/wiki/Plagiarism

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That's right MQ, it's everyone else that's crazy.

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Other views:

Belarusians do not want to leave Libya

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I wonder if he'll back this up.

Putin: West must allow self-determination for Libya

27 February, 2011

Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin has warned Western countries against attempts of meddling in the Arab world to try to impose democracy.

Speaking after talks with the EU leadership, he said that previous efforts along those lines had led to victories for governments the West is now fighting to contain.

�Today, we say we're concerned about things happening in Libya. But the North African cell of Al-Qaeda is also concerned about what is happening in Libya. Do you think this is a coincidence?� the Russian PM asked.

�I would like to go back in history a little bit. The former leader of the Iranian revolution � where did he live?! He lived in Paris and as a whole he was supported by the Western community. Now the entire Western community fights against the Iranian nuclear program,� Putin pointed out.

�I remember just recently our partners were very active in supporting democratic elections in the Palestinian autonomy. And Hamas won. And immediately they declared Hamas a terrorist organization and started fighting against it. We need to give people a chance to determine their future themselves. We need to give them an opportunity to take a natural way without any foreign interference to build their future,� he concluded.

video at link

[ZIFA]

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The CIA's Libya Rebels: The Same Terrorists who Killed US, NATO Troops in Iraq

2007 West Point Study Shows Benghazi-Darnah-Tobruk Area was a World Leader in Al Qaeda Suicide Bomber Recruitment

Webster G. Tarpley, Ph.D.
TARPLEY.net
March 24, 2011

Washington DC, March 24, 2011 � The current military attack on Libya has been motivated by UN Security Council resolution 1973 with the need to protect civilians. Statements by President Obama, British Prime Minister Cameron, French President Sarkozy, and other leaders have stressed the humanitarian nature of the intervention, which is said to aim at preventing a massacre of pro-democracy forces and human rights advocates by the Qaddafi regime.

But at the same time, many commentators have voiced anxiety because of the mystery which surrounds the anti-Qaddafi transitional government which emerged at the beginning of March in the city of Benghazi, located in the Cyrenaica district of north-eastern Libya. This government has already been recognized by France and Portugal as the sole legitimate representative of the Libyan people. The rebel council seems to be composed of just over 30 delegates, many of whom are enveloped in obscurity. In addition, the names of more than a dozen members of the rebel council are being kept secret, allegedly to protect them from the vengeance of Qaddafi. But there may be other reasons for the anonymity of these figures. Despite much uncertainty, the United Nations and its several key NATO countries, including the United States, have rushed forward to assist the armed forces of this rebel regime with air strikes, leading to the loss of one or two coalition aircraft and the prospect of heavier losses to come, especially if there should be an invasion. It is high time that American and European publics learned something more about this rebel regime which is supposed to represent a democratic and humanitarian alternative to Gaddafi.

The rebels are clearly not civilians, but an armed force. What kind of an armed force?

Since many of the rebel leaders are so difficult to research from afar, and since a sociological profile of the rebels cannot be done on the ground in the midst of warfare, perhaps the typical methods of social history can be called on for help. Is there a way for us to gain deeper insight into the climate of opinion which prevails in such northeastern Libyan cities as Benghazi, Tobruk, and Darnah, the main population centers of the rebellion?
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download West Point study at link

[Ya-ta Boy]

Is a PhD really a PhD when it comes out of a Cracker Jack box?
Did you know that the Arab Spring revolts are all engineered by the CIA�which was also behind Wikileaks? Did you know that the French Revolution was planned by Jeremy Bentham in London? How about this one: The revolutions of 1848 were also a British plot. And Obama was 'the' Manchurian Candidate.

These and many more gems are from the Wesley G. Tarpley site http://tarpley.net/ Scroll down past the first few posts till you get to March 15's: Behind the 2011 Orgy of Destabilizations: Pre-Emptive Coups by the CIA to Halt an Exodus of US Satraps and Viceroys Leading to a Multipolar World. I rather like this sentence:

�The Anglo-American plan is for a super-national empire over the planet, with a neo-feudal war of all against all on the ground.�

This is a nice paragraph:

"For the CIA, an ideal outcome is one in which the existing nation states are torn apart by regionalism, ethnic strife, warlords, and social breakdown. The State Department has played a leading role in the partition of Sudan. The same fate is obviously being prepared for Yemen. At this point, the US would be happy to divide Libya into Tripolitania and Cyrenaica. Iraq has already been fractured into three parts. According to the Bernard Lewis Plan, Iran could be carved into half a dozen petty states. Turkey and Syria are also slated to be carved and Balkanized. The same goes for Lebanon. The result would be a crazy quilt of squabbling impotent neo-feudal entities, none of which could stand up to J.P. Morgan Chase or Exxon Mobil. Economic life would be governed by the International Monetary Fund and the World Trade Organization, while NATO would provide military coercion."

Dr. Tarpley makes for interesting reading because he expresses some legitimate concerns but then jumps off the cliff at unexpected moments. In my judgement, he is better read for twisted political humor than for any kind of understanding of what is happening in the world.

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[Ya-ta Boy]

Are you saying the West Point Study supports the good doctor's claim that the whole mess in the Middle East is a coordinated plot by the CIA? Could you point out in the study where it says that, please?

As I said in my post (I love quoting myself): "Dr. Tarpley makes for interesting reading because he expresses some legitimate concerns but then jumps off the cliff at unexpected moments."

The influence of al Qaeda in the rebel 'army' is a legitimate concern. To jump from that to saying the CIA is behind it all needs a bit of supporting evidence that was not presented in the article linked to or in the other articles on the site. So is it unfairly attacking the messenger to say that he makes claims that he does not come close to supporting? No.

The situation in Libya is extremely dangerous and extremely important. I am trying to understand it. I resent people posting nonsense like Dr. Tarpley's articles. Articles like that just waste my time. Life is too short as it is.

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No, that's not what I am saying. You tried to discredit what I posted by referring to an unrelated item. The West Point study merely confirms what I posted: that the very same "rebels" we are now supporting have been a source of recruitment for Al.

The CIA is merely the enforcement arm of the neo-con cabal whose aim indeed to break up all or most of the countries in this part of the world (Mid-East and central Asia) into smaller, warring factions so all the cabal's friends can have access to their resources. Read Zbigniew Brzizinski's The Grand Chessboard or PNAC, etc.