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jrabernethy
Joined: 14 Jul 2010
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 2:17 am Post subject: Living in one city, working in another, paying more for rent |
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There is a potential position in Gwacheon that I'm looking at, but while the school is in Gwacheon, the apartment is in Anyang.
Also, they want me to pay 80,000 won for the housing since its over their budget.
All of this sounds extremely sketchy, so I have to wonder, is this sort of thing typical, or is this kind of a bad deal? I thought I read somewhere that GEPIK teachers were supposed to get housing within walking distance. |
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lifeinkorea
Joined: 24 Jan 2009 Location: somewhere in China
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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 1:36 am Post subject: |
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It depends on what kind of apartment it is and your overall contract agreement. Typically, no, they have to get you 100% an apartment, then you pay bills and apartment managing costs (between 30,000 to 100,000).
If they pay for transportation, take that into account. There are too many unknown variables.
If you can, you should visit Anyang. See if you like it. The good thing is it is outside of Seoul and very close. The first time, it was too crowded for me. After that, it wasn't too bad.
Unless you have a better offer, I would worry more about the job. What is the school like? Who do you teach? Look at all of it, not just this 80,000 per month aspect.
Let us know more. |
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jrabernethy
Joined: 14 Jul 2010
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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 11:12 am Post subject: |
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The job is at a public middle school. Are all public school positions typically the same?
They haven't mentioned anything about paying my transportation, so I don't think that's included. I definitely have no way of really visiting the place before I go.
I'm kind of leaning against taking it. They want me there in early June, and I was really hoping to use June/July to settle my affairs in the States first. I was just really hoping for a Gyeonggi position, but I'm trying to talk to other recruiters to see what they can do for me. |
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lifeinkorea
Joined: 24 Jan 2009 Location: somewhere in China
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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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No. Don't think that. Treat each school case by case. Post the contract in the contract review thread in this forum. It's a sticky at the top.
You are only taking one condition and trying to find a reason to reject everything because of it. If that's the kind of person you are, you should reject the public school route and get a well known hagwon job near Hongdae or Itaewon with 5 or more other foreign teachers at the same school. Your security blanket will be nice and fluffy then.
Or, take a chance and work with the details. I have, 4 years in Japan, 2.5 in Korea, and now 1 year so far in China. I prefer the non-standard deals because you will come out ahead if you are willing to sacrifice things you don't need. |
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nathanrutledge
Joined: 01 May 2008 Location: Marakesh
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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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Well, it's possible that the school IS in walking distance of the apartment. Gwacheon and Anyang sit next to each other. Judging by your post, you aren't here in Korea? Cities in Korea are not like cities in the United States. Provinces are broken into cities OR counties (the difference is the population), so one side of the street could be Gwacheon and the other side could be Anyang. It's like major metropolitan areas back home.
Second, on GEPIK contracts, they usually ask do you want a place near a subway station or near the school. Many schools will just keep the same apartment that the old teacher was using, thus shafting people on that decision. But Anyang is a nice area, and you'd probably be in the north eastern side which is a bit less hectic.
Still, more information would be helpful. Personally, I'd turn down any GEPIK job that said I had to pay extra for the apartment. Or I'd take the 400 monthly allowance and get my own place (not really an option for you if you don't have a deposit and a place to stay when you get here.) I found out what my school pays for my shoebox and what deposit they put down... I'd be miles ahead if I'd taken allowance!
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lifeinkorea
Joined: 24 Jan 2009 Location: somewhere in China
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 3:25 am Post subject: |
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Anyang is in the southwest, in respect to Seoul. Even though it's in Gyeonggido, I think it is easier to just extend Seoul for simplicity sake. |
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nathanrutledge
Joined: 01 May 2008 Location: Marakesh
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 7:48 am Post subject: |
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Anyang is in the southwest, in respect to Seoul. Even though it's in Gyeonggido, I think it is easier to just extend Seoul for simplicity sake. |
Yes, Anyang is, but I was refering to the part of Anyang he'd probably be in, IF my guess is correct about the location of the school and the location of the apartment. Gwacheon is to the north east of Anyang, so he'd probably be in that part of town. |
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jrabernethy
Joined: 14 Jul 2010
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:24 am Post subject: |
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Yes, The apartment is in northeast Anyang. The school and apartment are about 4 stations away from each other, if I understand it correctly.
I'm trying to find out more about the position, but seriously speaking, I don't think I'll be ready to work in June. I just have too much to take care of here before I leave, and realistically speaking, I probably shouldn't be looking to leave until at least July. I won't even have my M.A. in my hands until August.
Somebody was telling me that with my qualifications and the fact that I'm trying to make this a career, I might do better finding a job at a respectable Hagwon (like in Gangnam) or university position. But the listings all seem to require professional teaching experience of which I have 0 years (all I have is volunteer and practicum experience).
I'm not familiar with the market, but I've read something that university positions start opening up in June. Anybody familiar with this?
I'm thinking I should bide my time, and make sure I'm positive about my leaving date before I make a decision. I was just thinking I might need to start looking now, since EPIK is starting in a few days.
If I apply to EPIK, do I have to sign a contract right away, or can I wait and see if I can get a better position first and have EPIK as a backup plan? |
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