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zhanknight
Joined: 24 Mar 2010 Location: Yangsan
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 4:36 pm Post subject: Anyone else ever eaten squirming Nakji (octopus)? |
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Some friends joined us down at Noryangjin Fish Market a few nights ago to try Nakji, the octopus. It's chopped up and served still moving.
The taste was actually not bad. Very salty of course, but really not bad. I kinda liked it. I wouldn't get it every day, but I wouldn't gag at the sight of it - which is what I expected.
We made a video about it. Check it out if you want to see people eating moving tentacles:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDgoi4J33LA
We were there with a guy named Duane who is on a round the world trip right now and is currently in Korea. He has been traveling for about 9 months so far. Check out his project, it's called 'Reset, Live, Grow'.
http://www.youtube.com/ResetLiveGrow
*Edited to remove "baby" - they're not babies apparently, just small.
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Underwaterbob

Joined: 08 Jan 2005 Location: In Cognito
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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If it was chopped up, it wasn't the baby octopus, you eat those whole apparently.
I've had the same kind you had. Despite being alive, it's quite bland. I could really only taste the ChoJang. |
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zhanknight
Joined: 24 Mar 2010 Location: Yangsan
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Underwaterbob wrote: |
If it was chopped up, it wasn't the baby octopus, you eat those whole apparently.
I've had the same kind you had. Despite being alive, it's quite bland. I could really only taste the ChoJang. |
Oh, I didn't know that. This one had maybe 8 inch/20 cm tentacles when we bought it out of the tank. I saw 낙지 on the sign, but I believe that's just octopus, baby or not.
I really expected it to be repulsive, but it you're right, it's just kinda there. |
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rumdiary

Joined: 05 Jun 2006
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 5:14 pm Post subject: Re: Anyone else ever eaten squirming Nakji (baby octopus)? |
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| zhanknight wrote: |
Some friends joined us down at Noryangjin Fish Market a few nights ago to try Nakji, the baby octopus. It's chopped up and served still moving.
The taste was actually not bad. Very salty of course, but really not bad. I kinda liked it. I wouldn't get it every day, but I wouldn't gag at the sight of it - which is what I expected.
We made a video about it. Check it out if you want to see people eating moving tentacles:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDgoi4J33LA
We were there with a guy named Duane who is on a round the world trip right now and is currently in Korea. He has been traveling for about 9 months so far. Check out his project, it's called 'Reset, Live, Grow'.
http://www.youtube.com/ResetLiveGrow |
People in Korea are eating chopped up moving baby octopus? That's just insane. |
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West Coast Tatterdemalion
Joined: 31 Aug 2010
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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Sick. Disgusting. Immoral.  |
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zhanknight
Joined: 24 Mar 2010 Location: Yangsan
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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| West Coast Tatterdemalion wrote: |
Sick. Disgusting. Immoral.  |
You think so? Why? |
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Triban

Joined: 14 Jul 2009 Location: Suwon Station
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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| I enjoy it. I've eaten it probably 5 times, and will do so more. |
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hittheball
Joined: 23 Mar 2011 Location: Korea, Seoul, Kang Nam
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:34 pm Post subject: .... |
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| Actually no every Korean enjoys eating nakji alive. Some prefer to eat them boiled with spicy sauce(cho jang). |
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young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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| The octopuses probably don't like being chopped up, but they don't have any pain receptors being invertebrates. Things like lobsters and crabs aren't even aware that they are being boiled. I don't think its that immoral. When it comes to raising and preparing animals to be eaten there are things that are done that are a lot more immoral. |
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Konglishman

Joined: 14 Sep 2007 Location: Nanjing
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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| young_clinton wrote: |
| The octopuses probably don't like being chopped up, but they don't have any pain receptors being invertebrates. Things like lobsters and crabs aren't even aware that they are being boiled. I don't think its that immoral. When it comes to raising and preparing animals to be eaten there are things that are done that are a lot more immoral. |
In fact, I have also eaten the seonakji, but with that said, what makes you so sure that octopuses don't feel pain? After all, they have highly developed brains and a well developed sense of touch along with some other chemical sense that allows them to mimic their surroundings. |
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brento1138
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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| young_clinton wrote: |
| The octopuses probably don't like being chopped up, but they don't have any pain receptors being invertebrates. Things like lobsters and crabs aren't even aware that they are being boiled. I don't think its that immoral. When it comes to raising and preparing animals to be eaten there are things that are done that are a lot more immoral. |
I think the scientific consensus on that is not only wrong, but is changing. Scientists previously rated perception of pain in relation to consciousness of the individual. (Ie. dogs would feel less pain than humans, ants would feel less pain than dogs.) But apparently this isn't so. David Suzuki wrote an excellent article called 'the pain of animals' in which he writes about how it doesn't matter how big your brain is: pain is pain.
Scientists think that possessing an escape response to an aversive stimulus is not enough evidence to demonstrate that a species is capable of feeling pain. This makes sense with bacteria I suppose, but not with other larger animals. My question is why would they respond like that if they were not feeling pain? Even an ant has a nervous system and if it lacks a central processing area like our brain, it still functions similarly and allows the 'basics' to happen such as movement, sense, and most likely pain.
Recently, some other scientists who agree with me have been looking at this more closely in a study here where they found crustaceans (previously thought to not experience pain) would not only rub themselves after getting shocked, but would remember the rather noxious experience and avoid it. Check out the article here:
http://www.livescience.com/6137-spineless-feel-pain.html
This all said, I know full-well that I cause pain to animals as I embrace my omnivorous nature and eat both meat and plant-life.
I remember being quite amazed at how each piece of the squid tentacles seemed to have a mind of their own, "walking" around the plate, squirming back and forth in what looked to be (pain?), and even walking along the bottom of the plate when I held it up, or "feeling" that there was nothing beyond the edge of the plate (just like a caterpillar) and heading somewhere else. It was weird how each one seemed to have a mind of its own. |
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NohopeSeriously
Joined: 17 Jan 2011 Location: The Christian Right-Wing Educational Republic of Korea
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Chopped and raw nakji tastes the best with sesame oil and black pepper. |
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Caffeinated
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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Of course animals feel pain. Anyone who has been around animals or has had a pet should be able to relate to an animal's reaction to a painful stimulus.
Yes, even invertebrates feel pain. Snails dislike crawling on salt, caterpillars flee from fire. It would make sense that the ability to sense pain and flee from possible harm would be a basic feature in living things. Many other things that we believe are exclusive to humans are present to some degree in animals. I grew up on a farm and the cats and dogs would wail when their newborns were taken away so surely they're feeling loss.
| brento1138 wrote: |
| I remember being quite amazed at how each piece of the squid tentacles seemed to have a mind of their own, "walking" around the plate, squirming back and forth in what looked to be (pain?), and even walking along the bottom of the plate when I held it up, or "feeling" that there was nothing beyond the edge of the plate (just like a caterpillar) and heading somewhere else. It was weird how each one seemed to have a mind of its own. |
Since they're severed from the octopus' central nervous system, the tentacles aren't feeling pain themselves but just moving involuntarily. |
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northway
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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| The only thing interesting about it is the fact that it's moving. |
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rumdiary

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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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All you can taste is whatever you dip it in. It makes for an interesting video to show your friends back home. Nothing more. They really need to block Dave's users from posting links to blogs and videos the first 6 months they are in Korea. Or put them into a sticky with blogs about "Kimchi!" and photos of passed out business men. (I was new once too and thought I was breaking news)  |
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