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Scamps



Joined: 01 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 9:04 pm    Post subject: Which One Would You Rather? Reply with quote

I have to make a decision soon and I need help deciding. Please give me your opinion. Thanks!

Job A: At a kindergarden. Working hours are from 10 am to 4 pm but there is an hour for lunch and I don't eat with the kids. Classes end at 2 pm so from 2 to 4 pm I prepare for the next day. In the morning there are 5 or 6 classes for about 20 minutes each and 1 "advanced" class in the afternoon for 50 minutes. Rich parents send their kids here. They even have a heated indoor swimming pool and a golf room. Pay is 2.3 plus 400,000 for housing and 17 days for vacation plus Korean holidays and lots of field trips.

Job B: At a public high school (GEPIK program which btw I'm in already, I work at a middle school and enjoy it) hours are 8:30 am to 4:30 pm MWF and 8:30 am to 6:00 pm TTH. 25 days holiday plus Korean holidays and lots of free time in between classes and maybe deskwarming when no classes are in session. Pay is 2.9 or 3.0 plus the 400,000 for housing. I only have to make one lesson plan every two weeks. But I guess I'll have to make 2 seperate plans every week for the afterschool class.

What do you guys think?
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends on what you want:
More pay or fewer working hours.
Younger or older kids.

Personally, I would choose "B" but "A" doesn't sound like a bad deal (I do like to work with little kids).

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Scamps



Joined: 01 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks. I guess I want a combination of few hours with hs students but I like little kids too. Not picky about money but who wouldn't want more and I like longer vacations too...this is why it's so hard to decide so I'm wondering what others would choose. This is seriously keeping me up at night. Also, I think it sounds more prestigious to say you work at a hs vs. kindergarden but I'm open to either...help me guys!
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winterfall



Joined: 21 May 2009

PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd take B. Little kids are really cute when they're not annoying as hell. And you need so much more energy to teach them than high school kids.

Prestige doesn't matter, your a foreign teacher. The scraping the floor qualifications is so well known, it doesn't make a difference to most people
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Scamps



Joined: 01 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ttompatz, thanks for your answer but would you mind telling me your reasoning behind it? Just curious.
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bobrocket



Joined: 26 Jan 2011

PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The kinder garden thing works for me.
I have a baby so for me, it means I get time in the morning and in the evening to play.
My job is basically the same, 20minutes per class in the morning and an advanced class after lunch.
The 20 min class is story telling, reading books, singing songs etc, no teaching just exposing them to basic English.
The afternoon class is not much better for me, I don't have any help and the kids don't speak English, just very very basic stuff. I can find it quite draining when they go off the rails but you do need the personality to match.
Almost everyday I enjoy going to work, I get paid to have fun all day long.

Prior to this I was teaching advanced English to high school students, I found this more satisfying as I could see results in what I was teaching. I only changed because now I can spend more time with my family.

One thing that may help, Korean kids are 1 year younger than what they say, well for me anyway, when their born their 1 year old, so a year old is actually 4.

I would choose the one you think you would enjoy more but that's just my opinion.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scamps wrote:
Ttompatz, thanks for your answer but would you mind telling me your reasoning behind it? Just curious.


I am fully aware of the cons of working in a PS but I DO like the perks (annual vacations, flight home every year, not having a micromanaging director (co-teachers I can deal with), etc. The added salary is nice too but not the only consideration.

I have nothing against working a kindy.

Given SIMILAR pay and benefits (even if you increased the work load to match that at the PS) I would choose the kindy (my preferred age ranges for teaching are k-3) and I don't mind the extra energy it takes to keep them going and motivated.

BUT the kindy does NOT offer a similar remuneration package and it makes no sense to me to work my way down the scale after working to get to the top.

Just my humble opinion.

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Scamps



Joined: 01 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks again. The base pay for the hs is either 2.2 or 2.3 but because the afterschool program is a must they pay an extra 600,000 for that. So I'm not sure if I'd get 2.9 or 3.0 every month. I should ask about it but even if I do get an extra 600,000 for 9 months out of the year that's an extra 5.4 million won.

Please keep the comments coming!
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Auslegung



Joined: 14 Jan 2009
Location: MB, SC

PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd choose the kindergarten position, but that's solely because little kids are more fun, and I've got bad assumptions about public school. Don't have much advice beyond that, wish I could help you more.

If you don't take the kindy position, I'll take it Smile
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dyc



Joined: 16 Dec 2010
Location: Vancouver

PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This kindie job sounds pretty sweet!


But the 25 vacation days for B plus higher pay (despite working more) make it worth it IMO, especially if you enjoy teaching that age group.
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whiteshoes



Joined: 14 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both are fine options. I'd listen to your gut as to which people are better to work for.

I know a guy who works at a public school and his co-teacher does everything. With the after school program he makes over 3.0 because he's been there a while.

I also know people at kindy with a nice job two.

The common link for both of them? Working with and for a good Korean manager. That is where you'll find your answer.
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SeoulNate



Joined: 04 Jun 2010
Location: Hyehwa

PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would depend on if you have something to occupy your time with outside of school.

I currently work a schedule like your A job, except a few hours later start time, and I love it. But, I am working on my portfolio and writing my thesis in the off hours. When I finish up both of them in a few months I will have to find something else to occupy myself with.

However, if I didnt have anything to do, I would probably go crazy with all the extra time I would have on my hands.
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sojusucks



Joined: 31 May 2008

PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go with the public school job. Have you ever taught kindy? It can be very draining, especially if you get no support.
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dyc



Joined: 16 Dec 2010
Location: Vancouver

PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

whiteshoes wrote:


I also know people at kindy with a nice job two.



Seriously?
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Scamps



Joined: 01 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks. Anyone else have an opinion...have to decide by today!
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