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Teacher Survey-How do you feel about your school?
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rhinofinn



Joined: 19 Mar 2011

PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 10:52 am    Post subject: Teacher Survey-How do you feel about your school? Reply with quote

Hey,

I'm conducting a survey of EFL teachers' perceptions about the schools that they work for. The survey is for a research paper I am writing for one of my classes. If anyone has anything to say on the topic, it would not only help me with my paper, but I'm also applying with EPIK and hope to make it to Korea in August...so I'm personally interested in the topic.

So yeah, the basic question is how do you feel in general about the school you work for? Have they been helpful/supportive? How have you been received as a foreign teacher? Do you have the freedom to do your own thing in class, or are you bound by the textbook?

Anything you have to say on the topic would be really appreciated.

Thanks for your time.
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Zackback



Joined: 05 Nov 2010
Location: Kyungbuk

PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My school is great. I work at a hogwan and it is better organized than the several universities I used to work for. My boss is really cool.
Helpful and supportive? Yes very much so. Short on money my first month and they forwarded 1/2 my check halfway through the first month. They also let me decide when I want my two vacations. I get a free dinner every night which I would say 95% of the time is good.
I can use the textbook and teach outside of it as well.
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winterfall



Joined: 21 May 2009

PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the OP meant Public schools, not hagwons.

Feeling towards school: Don't like them. They have unrealistic expectations that I will "Wave" a wand and magically fix all of the problems in the world no matter what I say to them. Not to mention, English teachers are constantly asking the meaning of obscure terms without ever providing context. There's one teacher here that memorized 16th Century English, LOVES Shakespeare. No problem with that except he gets mad when you obviously don't know what the hell he's saying.

Have they been helpful / supportive: No. The only thing they were helpful with was the constant belittling, grammar pot shots, undermining your authority and complaining. Not to mention all of them think your psychic, that they explained everything they wanted when all they did was stare at you with blank eyes

How have you been received as a foreign teacher? I have been received as a foreign teacher. Emphasis on foreign.

Freedom. Yes and no, it depends on the school and more broadly the co-teacher. Generally older co-teachers over 40 or 50 are the least qualified, hard core grammar nazis and they're usually not fluent either. To them the textbook is everything. No deviation whatsoever and because they're old and on their way out the door. Schools are reluctant to reign them in even if they're outright hostile to the FT
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Fishead soup



Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your experience at a public schools is dependant on several factors.

Are you teaching in the Englis Zone this is an important factor. Students in the English zone are more motivated. The classes are more streamlined. You tend to get students of a similar ability. This makes teaching much easier. You can also put more theory into practice and do genuinly Communicative activities.

Are you teaching regular classrooms These can vary between being OK to being downright hellish.

How well do you understand your Korean co-teacher. There are some
who just don't get it.
Are you considered a real teacher or a dancing monkey
Being a dancing monkey is ok sometimes but all the time will lead to burn out.
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itistime



Joined: 23 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So yeah, the basic question is how do you feel in general about the school you work for?
I love it.
Have they been helpful/supportive?
Yes.
How have you been received as a foreign teacher?
With open arms. But everyone, everywhere generally likes me.

Do you have the freedom to do your own thing in class, or are you bound by the textbook?
Absolute freedom. Why? See the previous questions.
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Squire



Joined: 26 Sep 2010
Location: Jeollanam-do

PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll start by saying I've only just hit the two month mark, so I may change my mind completely. I do work at two elementaries and one middle school though

How do you feel in general about the school you work for?

I'm satisfied with all three. I follow their rules as best I can so I haven't ran into any major problems yet. I consider myself to be in a good situation

Have they been helpful/supportive?

Yes, but that hasn't really been put to the test yet.

How have you been received as a foreign teacher?

Generally pretty well. Sometimes it's a bit patronising to STILL laugh when I use basic Korean, but I can live with that

Do you have the freedom to do your own thing in class, or are you bound by the textbook?

No, I work from the textbook. But I have after school classes once a week with my middle school students and no one has meddled in those so far
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B of NC



Joined: 08 Feb 2009

PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

how do you feel in general about the school you work for?
My feelings go up and down but generally speaking I love my school, kids, coteachers and situation overall and wouldn't trade it for all the tea in...Korea

Have they been helpful/supportive?
Yes always there to answer questions help fix things or even find me a Korean tutor

How have you been received as a foreign teacher?
Really really well. I was very nervous and shy at first so they were maybe more hesitant. Since I've gotten more comfortable they have also opened up. You'd be suprised how much English some of the teachers can speak when they are comfy with you. Very Happy

Do you have the freedom to do your own thing in class, or are you bound by the textbook?

I don't really have freedom this year. I had all the freedom I could handle last year when I had 13 hours of afterschool classes. Plus the teachers explained to me that the Education Office has decided to budget to the smaller schools in my town so other teachers are having more afterschool stuff.

But I still get to make up games so it's pretty sweet
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sallymonster



Joined: 06 Feb 2010
Location: Seattle area

PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 2:57 am    Post subject: Re: Teacher Survey-How do you feel about your school? Reply with quote

rhinofinn wrote:
So yeah, the basic question is how do you feel in general about the school you work for?


I have mixed feelings about my school. On one hand, they gave me 5 weeks' vacation (more than most public school teachers, and I'm not in a rural area), and pay me a lot more for overtime than the standard GEPIK rate. On the other hand, I worked a lot of overtime last semester, and I loathed teaching most of those after-school classes. I currently have a totally useless co-teacher, so I'm basically teaching 40 student classes alone. And let's not forget that my school is trying to cheat me out of my return airfare.

rhinofinn wrote:
Have they been helpful/supportive? How have you been received as a foreign teacher?


I get some support, but I'm mostly expected to handle problems on my own, especially in the after-school classes. If I'm having problems with a class I often get accused of not being entertaining enough, or not using enough K-Pop references in class. Rolling Eyes

Most homeroom teachers are supportive when it comes to student discipline, but communicating can be a problem since most of them don't speak English. I have to say that my current handler (whom I don't teach with) is a lot more supportive than my previous handler (whom I did teach with), though she does occasionally make excuses for the students' naughty behavior.

rhinofinn wrote:
Do you have the freedom to do your own thing in class, or are you bound by the textbook?


For regular class, we use a textbook, but I'm expected to supplement it with my own material. For after-school class, I have total freedom to teach whatever I want, which is both a blessing and a curse.
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tomato



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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how do you feel in general about the school you work for?

Do you mean how do I think they're serving the kids or how do I think they're serving me?
I would have to give opposite answers, but for the same reason.
They advertise as an English kindergarten, but they spend much of the time singing Korean songs and reading Korean story books.

One teacher has been appointed as my supervisor because she's the only one whose English is good enough.
I have to speak Korean to all the other teachers.

That's good language practice for me but not for the kids.

Quote:
Have they been helpful/supportive?

Very much.

Quote:
How have you been received as a foreign teacher?

They appreciate my musical skills, they appreciate my original ideas, and they appreciate my efforts to learn Korean.
I cannot say the same for any of the other schools where I've worked, and I've worked in about ten other schools.

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Do you have the freedom to do your own thing in class, or are you bound by the textbook?

They have a rigid schedule.
We all have to have all the blanks filled out and the boxes checked by the deadline.
But once I'm up to schedule, I'm free to do my own thing.
It hasn't been that way in all the schools where I worked.

There is an hour or two of free play.
Although that time is unstructured, the kids usually keep me busy.
Some of them like to be hoisted in the air.
Some of them like for me to read books to them--in both languages.
When the book is in Korean, that's good reading exercise for me.
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Do you have the freedom to do your own thing in class, or are you bound by the textbook?


All teachers need to follow curriculum and adhere to certain program or semester goals. That is not a negative thing per se, it is in fact pretty normal as "doing your own thing" can be whoefully ineffective if you have no teaching training.
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Fishead soup



Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PatrickGHBusan wrote:
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Do you have the freedom to do your own thing in class, or are you bound by the textbook?


All teachers need to follow curriculum and adhere to certain program or semester goals. That is not a negative thing per se, it is in fact pretty normal as "doing your own thing" can be whoefully ineffective if you have no teaching training.


What about choosing a textbook like" Interchange" that is actually superior to the one they are already using.
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Ramen



Joined: 15 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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MoneyMike



Joined: 03 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm pretty happy with my school, teach in a high school in the southern part of Korea.

Teachers have been pretty helpful, but I've been in this city for over a year now and speak a bit of Korean so I don't really have to ask for help with anything these days.

I've been received pretty well at this school. I'm mostly segregated from the non English teachers, as I have an office with a few other English teachers in an English only building. I don't really mind this though, I occasionally chat with some of the other teachers at lunch, but I'm not going out of my way to make friends or anything.

12 of my weekly classes are text book based, and 6 of them are totally open for me to do anything I want. I like this setup. Even for the text book based classes, I usually use supplemental activities or materials, so there is some freedom.

All the teachers I co-teach with are pretty relaxed, which is nice, and have varying degrees of helpfulness, right from 'rarely shows up' to 'jumps in to help whenever she thinks I'm having difficulty explaining something'.

This is the third school I've taught in here in Korea, and by far my favorite position so far.
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fishead soup wrote:
PatrickGHBusan wrote:
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Do you have the freedom to do your own thing in class, or are you bound by the textbook?


All teachers need to follow curriculum and adhere to certain program or semester goals. That is not a negative thing per se, it is in fact pretty normal as "doing your own thing" can be whoefully ineffective if you have no teaching training.


What about choosing a textbook like" Interchange" that is actually superior to the one they are already using.


Great if you are able to judge what a good textbook is and how it can better help your students learn.

Many people have no idea about this (through no fault of their own mind you, they simply do not have experience).

Great if you can then use said textbook and plan effective lessons that will foster learning and engage the students.

My comment about "doing your own thing" was about that fact that while an experienced teacher should have more leeway an inexperienced teacher should be wary of doing their own thing without checking with another more experienced teacher. Simply put, its about the students learning right?
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winterfall



Joined: 21 May 2009

PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PatrickGHBusan wrote:


Great if you are able to judge what a good textbook is and how it can better help your students learn.

Many people have no idea about this (through no fault of their own mind you, they simply do not have experience).

Great if you can then use said textbook and plan effective lessons that will foster learning and engage the students.

My comment about "doing your own thing" was about that fact that while an experienced teacher should have more leeway an inexperienced teacher should be wary of doing their own thing without checking with another more experienced teacher. Simply put, its about the students learning right?


I disagree. In general inexperienced teachers are more willing to take risks, think outside the box, and learn the extra things they need to teach their students. It may or may not always pay out. But compared to experienced teachers who usually rely on textbooks. And being able to evaluate a textbook isn't always a skill or even a good thing. Since textbooks are the lazy man's solution to making a curriculum.

Even good textbooks like Side by Side also don't work by Applied Linguistics standards, there's far too many new vocabulary words per lesson. And the formula for the lessons is actually pretty hard for someone new to language.
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