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jdsolo
Joined: 25 Jan 2011
Location: Hell
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 Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 11:42 am Post subject: iPhone in Korea |
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With the release of the CDMA network Verizon iPhone, do you think iPhones bought in the US will work in Korea?
Not sure what kind of network S. Korea is on but I'm really hoping it'll work. Anyone know?
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crossmr
Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul
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| Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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| they already did. You just had to have them certified before. |
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Jake_Kim
Joined: 27 Aug 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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Individual certification has been exempted and replaced with on-line declaration since January 24. (http://rra.go.kr/popup/popup_110121.jsp)
However, only SK Telecom runs the frequency of 800MHz compatible with Verizon iPhone, yet SKT's network is EV-DO Rev.0 not Rev.A. This means, even if SKT accepts individual Verizon iPhone handset - which is unconfirmed and doubtful to begin with - datastream will be VERY sluggish. Besides, they might have no clue which data plan they should put you under, since the entire smartphone lineup of SKT is constructed around 3G WCDMA infrastructure. |
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jdsolo
Joined: 25 Jan 2011
Location: Hell
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| Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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| so does the normal AT&T iphone, bought in the US, work in Korea? |
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Died By Bear
Joined: 13 Jul 2010
Location: On the big lake they call Gitche Gumee
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| Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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The Verizon 'Droid Global' smart phone has a sim card that you swap out - still, after reading Jake Kim, I wonder if that even means anything.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/droid-2-global-motorola.shtml
Global Ready
* Customers must activate pre�installed SIM Card and a Global Service plan or feature to enable roaming outside of the U.S. in GSM and UMTS Network.
* International Roaming (CDMA) is available on all Verizon Wireless devices and does not require an activated SIM Card. (Global Data Plan or Feature is suggested)
* GSM data capable in more than 205 countries, over 125 with 3G Speeds with a Global Data Plan or Feature and an active SIM Card
* For Outside of the U.S. Services, Rates, Coverage, and Countries by Technology please visit www.verizonwireless.com/global |
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Jake_Kim
Joined: 27 Aug 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Died By Bear wrote: |
| The Verizon 'Droid Global' smart phone has a sim card that you swap out - still, after reading Jake Kim, I wonder if that even means anything. |
It doesn't. This isn't about technological feasibility - since those handsets outright unusable with a borrowed Korean SIM card have no problem tapping into Korean network if they're 'on roaming.'
Instead, networks maintain the entire list of IMEI codes of all handsets registered with them. Even if the SIM inserted is valid, network servers still compare incoming IMEI code with their list, and block out carrier wave in case they don't match.
The aforementioned 'declaration' is a process to acquire regulatory exemption and force a network to register and enable a foreign (your handset's) IMEI to their list. Without taking the paperwork to respective network to register, the declaration with the RRA or the EKCC alone doesn't do any good.
And the answer for AT&T 3G iPhone 3GS/4 is 'yes.' In that case, Olleh KT handles it, not SKT. |
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fullcollapseCA
Joined: 03 Aug 2010
Location: Cheongju-@ a Hagwon
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| Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 1:39 am Post subject: |
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I have an iphone 4 At&T from the US. How can I switch it over to Olleh? Do they do prepaid? Also would I be able to use my iphone again in the US? Thanks!  [/list] |
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cyui
Joined: 10 Jan 2011
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| Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 7:18 am Post subject: |
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This discussion has been done over and over.However, you will still have pay ( $300) to register on the LG/SK Network, regardless of your quad band ( even with roaming agreements').
BTW, most all phones' are on 4G speeds' now.
Why is it a "foreign"phone if it is made in Korea, as well?
Why do you have to do a "decleration"on your own damn network? |
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Jake_Kim
Joined: 27 Aug 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 7:36 am Post subject: |
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| fullcollapseCA wrote: |
| I have an iphone 4 At&T from the US. How can I switch it over to Olleh? Do they do prepaid? Also would I be able to use my iphone again in the US? Thanks! [/list] |
http://rra.go.kr/approval/status/view.jsp?category=4&no=APA-A1332
THAT is the model certification in effect for iPhone 4. The existence of this record means that you don't need to go through any additional paperwork, you can take your US handset to the nearest KT branch office (not just any shop with an Olleh KT signboard, though - they're simply retailers who do not handle such an 'administrative' process) and sign up for a plan.
This 'exemption' thing is pretty new, therefore there's a good chance some clerks are not even familiar with the new rule, even without language barrier. Have them call KT headquarters to confirm that if necessary, should the issue of certification come up.
Prepaid scheme with iPhone is totally unheard of, and you need to do some research on which combined plan to choose in advance. Plans available are shown at: http://mobile.olleh.com/index.asp?code=IA00000, then 'i-rates' on the left. Don't expect to have it in English.
All that IMEI stuff is about recording your handset information to network registry, not about manipulating your handset firmware. When you take it back to the States and swap out SIM cards, it's simply your old AT&T iPhone again. |
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Jake_Kim
Joined: 27 Aug 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 7:54 am Post subject: |
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| cyui wrote: |
This discussion has been done over and over.However, you will still have pay ( $300) to register on the LG/SK Network, regardless of your quad band ( even with roaming agreements').
BTW, most all phones' are on 4G speeds' now.
Why is it a "foreign"phone if it is made in Korea, as well?
Why do you have to do a "decleration"on your own damn network? |
Because handsets are manufactured to required foreign network specs. Don't let identical plastic shells and uniform brand names fool you. If the circuit design is different, it's a different device. Frequency is only one of the features that make up product specifications.
LG Electronics does not own LG U-plus, and LGE doesn't manufacture exclusively for LGU either. No manufacturer runs its own network, therefore you are mistaken. |
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cyui
Joined: 10 Jan 2011
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| Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 9:27 am Post subject: |
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What does the manufacter have to do with the network agreements'?
At and T and T-mobile aren't the same companies', either, but they both
have manufacturing rights' to The I-phone and The Blackberry.
Who orginally made the I-phone ( in Korea)? |
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Jake_Kim
Joined: 27 Aug 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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| cyui wrote: |
| Why do you have to do a "decleration"on your own damn network? |
Whose 'own network' are you talking about then? The 'declaration' is what substitutes device certification procedure which used to be enforced on any overseas communication device if said device were to be imported into country for future use by a party that is not the original manufacturer. AT&T and T-Mobile jointly having rights over certain devices has anything to do with any Korean mobile network because of what? Is SKT part of AT&T? No. Why is it your own damn network then, when you have never subscribed it before?
Domestically released handsets are not subject to certification or declaration even if they were of foreign origin, because Apple, RIM, or any other manufacturer, domestic or foreign, has already gone through the process for you, the customer, and vouched for their authenticity. The requirement for individuals might have sucked until the ban was lifted recently, so brag about the inconvenience, that's fine. Nevertheless, regulation enforcement is what sovereignty is about, and you don't have a say on that beyond bragging about the inconvenience itself. Don't brag about what you don't know. |
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cyui
Joined: 10 Jan 2011
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| Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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ummm.ok.
Way to BS your way though that one.
Next one please.. |
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Jake_Kim
Joined: 27 Aug 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Which part are you saying is a BS now? |
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tatertot
Joined: 21 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Jake_Kim wrote: |
| Which part are you saying is a BS now? |
I would suggest that you just don't respond to cyui. Obvious troll is obvious. He or she has never had anything intelligent or helpful to say, as far as I can tell. Thanks for all the help you've been giving lately, Jake_Kim. I'm sure many of the people on these boards appreciate it (I know I do). |
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