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American College of Education Master's Degree?
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wookiej



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 8:35 pm    Post subject: American College of Education Master's Degree? Reply with quote

I'm thinking about getting the Master of Education in Curriculum and Instruction with ESL Specialization there. Does anyone have any experience with the school or have any info about it?

I've done some research and it seems to be pretty legit in terms of accreditation.

Also, any recommendations for online master's courses that are internationally recognized?

Cheers!
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runthegauntlet



Joined: 02 Dec 2007
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you have to be a certified teacher to enroll in that program?
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wookiej



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nope! I haven't seen a single masters of education where you have to be a certified teacher to enroll.
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runthegauntlet



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wookiej wrote:
nope! I haven't seen a single masters of education where you have to be a certified teacher to enroll.


Really? All the M.Ed. programs in my state mandate that you're a certified teacher.

This would be awesome if anyone can sign up for it.
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runthegauntlet



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, this seems to say you DO have to be certified:

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All applicants must present documentation of professional teaching or school services certificate and completion of all state certification requirements.


http://www.ace.edu/esl_admission.asp
http://www.ace.edu/get_started.asp


and experienced.... Sad
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definitely maybe



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You guys should be looking at MAT programs.
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runthegauntlet



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

definitely maybe wrote:
You guys should be looking at MAT programs.


Every one I've looked at required a teaching cred.

I don't have one so can't start the program.
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deekman81



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My wife is doing this right now. She has two Masters already from Boston College, one in Education and one in Special Needs Development. This Masters is the real deal. However, it's for people who are already teachers and are looking for advancement into the curriculum side of education. I would look at getting an MED from an online place like Southern Cal, or if you want to go the cheaper route, U of Phoenix, Jones International or University of Maryland.
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runthegauntlet



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

deekman81 wrote:
I would look at getting an MED from an online place like Southern Cal, or if you want to go the cheaper route, U of Phoenix, Jones International or University of Maryland.


U of Phoenix? At $550 per hour plus another $110 per course, that's hardly a cheaper route.

Plus that place reads like a degree mill.

JIU has an interesting course but tuition seems to be about $10000 for four courses! Four?!! It's a 48 hour degree program. How many hours do four courses classes make up? 12? Ouch.

Anyway, also just read on the American University site that they don't recommend people from my state taking the course because of their perceived issues with online/distance education.

America's higher education options seem to be sorely lacking...
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wookiej



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

interesting! I've also talked to one of the administrators are Walden University and done some research on them. Seems to have a pretty good reputation but will come in at just over 15,000us for the degree. Which isn't too bad, i guess.

Any experiences with Walden?
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antgonz



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ACE is way too easy. I did a class with them for an internship. If you want something on your resume, fine. If you want to actually learn something, I would not do it.
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wookiej



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm basically looking to do an online master's of education (in a year, if possible) while teaching in Seoul. I don't have a education degree, just a bachelor of arts.

So what I need is a program that is fully accredited and will be accepted by Canadian school boards, employers and Korean universities (in case I decide to come back!).

I imagine that many people have gone through this process, or attempted it.

Any feedback from people with some experience would be really appreciated!
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definitely maybe



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

runthegauntlet wrote:
definitely maybe wrote:
You guys should be looking at MAT programs.


Every one I've looked at required a teaching cred.

I don't have one so can't start the program.


Most MATs are specifically geared for training new educators with no background in the field. Unfortunately, I'm currently unaware of the online options available.

Have any of you considered the Framingham (Mass.) State University program down in Jochiwon? There will be a new cohort starting up this winter. It's reasonably priced and the instruction is offered 100% onsite by American professors during the major vacations and a few spring weekends.

http://www.framingham.edu/graduate-and-continuing-education/graduate-programs/international-education-program/teaching-english-as-a-second-language.html
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runthegauntlet



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

definitely maybe wrote:
runthegauntlet wrote:
definitely maybe wrote:
You guys should be looking at MAT programs.


Every one I've looked at required a teaching cred.

I don't have one so can't start the program.


Most MATs are specifically geared for training new educators with no background in the field. Unfortunately, I'm currently unaware of the online options available.

Have any of you considered the Framingham (Mass.) State University program down in Jochiwon? There will be a new cohort starting up this winter. It's reasonably priced and the instruction is offered 100% onsite by American professors during the major vacations and a few spring weekends.

http://www.framingham.edu/graduate-and-continuing-education/graduate-programs/international-education-program/teaching-english-as-a-second-language.html


No they're not, at least not the distance courses.

Most are specifically geared for current educators to acquire highly qualified status and beyond.

I mean, it makes sense and all. If you're going to be proficient in a subject at the Master's level you obviously need the background that having an undergrad/certification would require.

It seems like you're talking about MAs in TESOL (like Framingham, which still wouldn't allow for you to teach public school in the U.S.) but I personally have found very few actual distance MATs (or M.Eds., which the OP seems to be talking about) that don't require that you're already a current teacher. Not to say they're not out there (and offering teacher certification in the process), but they're definitely not typically geared for 'aspiring teachers' with no relevant education.

How could they be?
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sirius black



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting. So, what if one has no desire to teach in north America and wants the easierst and cheapest Master in Education or any ESL related field that would be accepted by Korean unis (and possibly unis in other countries such as the Middle East and Asia)? This can either be online or in Korea. Basically, just looking for something to add to a resume and be more marketable. Could care less if I actually learned something.

The framington master's program sounds very interesting. Any others cheaper (and easier?)

Note: spare the don't you want to learn, or any finger wagging type responses. etc. I asked what I asked. If it can't be toward that end don't post a response. I know its a public forum but just do the usual DavesESL d*ck move and preach. Don't be 'that guy/gal'

Thanks.
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