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I noticed that teaching English in Korea earn a lot
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HanlSky



Joined: 30 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 1:16 pm    Post subject: I noticed that teaching English in Korea earn a lot Reply with quote

http://www.eslcafe.com/jobs/korea/index.cgi?read=47438

I saw here working 20 hrs a week for 2 ~ 2.4 million wons.

When I calculated 2.2 mill is about 2050 dollars

2050 / 80 hours in 4 weeks (a month) is about 25.6 dollars per hour, which is a lot. I guess if you get some students for private tutoring charging the same amount you could earn a lot!
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Burndog



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's the same as any industry...some people have decent jobs, good contacts and the right VISA class...and they earn a LOT. Most people have a standard job, standard contacts and a standard VISA...they earn an average kind of wage.

You can't look at extreme examples (20 hours a week for 2.4 million a month) and assume that everyone has the same earning potential...especially when you are talking about Privates...because that requires having a special VISA class.
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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We noticed that you're not a native speaker. What's the point of your post? Is there a question in there somewhere?

Only people with F-visa status teach privates. People on E-visa status must get permission from their employer to engage in work activity outside of their primary place of employment, and permission is rarely given.

In this respect, the E-2 visa in Korea is antiquated. If Korea wants to attract and keep qualified ESL teachers, it should provide more flexibility in the labour market (e.g. as in Japan).
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Chalmers



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 3:45 pm    Post subject: Re: I noticed that teaching English in Korea earn a lot Reply with quote

HanlSky wrote:
http://www.eslcafe.com/jobs/korea/index.cgi?read=47438

I saw here working 20 hrs a week for 2 ~ 2.4 million wons.

When I calculated 2.2 mill is about 2050 dollars

2050 / 80 hours in 4 weeks (a month) is about 25.6 dollars per hour, which is a lot. I guess if you get some students for private tutoring charging the same amount you could earn a lot!


yes!
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brucefox



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, i've been noticing even the people who earn only 2.0 or 2.1 million a month are saving a thousand ollars or more every month. I think I am gonna get rid of my student loan pretty damn soon.
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HanlSky



Joined: 30 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

brucefox wrote:
yeah, i've been noticing even the people who earn only 2.0 or 2.1 million a month are saving a thousand ollars or more every month. I think I am gonna get rid of my student loan pretty damn soon.


How much loans do you have?
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DaHu



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

getting a US citizenship will not help you
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DigitalSoju



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those 20 hours are usually only "teaching" hours. It doesn't count the deskwarming (sitting at your desk at work).
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mmstyle



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DigitalSoju wrote:
Those 20 hours are usually only "teaching" hours. It doesn't count the deskwarming (sitting at your desk at work).


...or prepping.
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Geumchondave



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

as above - we only teach for 20 hrs a week but we are at work for 40 - which would work out at just over 10 dollars an hour - which in england would only be just over minimum wage so for some of us its not that great. the main financial incentive for me at least is the free housing. and the free travel. the pay itself is pretty poor for an actual teacher as is the vacation time
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silkhighway



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If someone thinks 30K american is a lot of money, even with a low tax rate, they are severely delusional.

It reminds me when I was visiting South-East Asia and met ESL teachers there. When I told them I was teaching in Korea, they'd ask me how I could afford to live in Korea with the high cost of living. Nevermind I sent home more a month they earned in total salary, they couldn't get past the "high cost of living". I find a lot of ESL teachers in Korea have the same view to people back home paying "the high taxes".
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HanlSky



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Geumchondave wrote:
as above - we only teach for 20 hrs a week but we are at work for 40 - which would work out at just over 10 dollars an hour - which in england would only be just over minimum wage so for some of us its not that great. the main financial incentive for me at least is the free housing. and the free travel. the pay itself is pretty poor for an actual teacher as is the vacation time


How much of that 20hrs non-teaching hours are free for browsing the computer or reading a book? Can you just do the bare minimum prepping for each class?
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silkhighway



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HanlSky wrote:
Geumchondave wrote:
as above - we only teach for 20 hrs a week but we are at work for 40 - which would work out at just over 10 dollars an hour - which in england would only be just over minimum wage so for some of us its not that great. the main financial incentive for me at least is the free housing. and the free travel. the pay itself is pretty poor for an actual teacher as is the vacation time


How much of that 20hrs non-teaching hours are free for browsing the computer or reading a book? Can you just do the bare minimum prepping for each class?


Are you for real or just trolling? You can do the bare minimum in ANY job. For every single person here you'll get a different answer how much effort they put forth. We all have different bosses, we all have different levels of ambition and we all work at different levels of efficiency.
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HanlSky



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

silkhighway wrote:
HanlSky wrote:
Geumchondave wrote:
as above - we only teach for 20 hrs a week but we are at work for 40 - which would work out at just over 10 dollars an hour - which in england would only be just over minimum wage so for some of us its not that great. the main financial incentive for me at least is the free housing. and the free travel. the pay itself is pretty poor for an actual teacher as is the vacation time


How much of that 20hrs non-teaching hours are free for browsing the computer or reading a book? Can you just do the bare minimum prepping for each class?


Are you for real or just trolling? You can do the bare minimum in ANY job. For every single person here you'll get a different answer how much effort they put forth. We all have different bosses, we all have different levels of ambition and we all work at different levels of efficiency.


I see. If you do minimum prepping how much would you expect to work?
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HanlSky



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

silkhighway wrote:
If someone thinks 30K american is a lot of money, even with a low tax rate, they are severely delusional.

It reminds me when I was visiting South-East Asia and met ESL teachers there. When I told them I was teaching in Korea, they'd ask me how I could afford to live in Korea with the high cost of living. Nevermind I sent home more a month they earned in total salary, they couldn't get past the "high cost of living". I find a lot of ESL teachers in Korea have the same view to people back home paying "the high taxes".


That's a good insight.

It is also sad; when people consider just a few more aspects to something, they could have had a lot more money.
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