| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
Mikejelai
Joined: 01 Nov 2009
Location: Seoul
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Mr. Peabody
Joined: 24 Sep 2010
Location: here
|
 Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 10:32 pm Post subject: |
 |
|
| Again? I wonder what the Surgeon General thinks about obtuse teachers? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
jinks
Joined: 27 Oct 2004
Location: Formerly: Lower North Island
|
| Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 10:38 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Mr. Peabody wrote: |
| Again? I wonder what the Surgeon General thinks about obtuse teachers? |
Nice
OP - let it go.
What happened to the original thread? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Artris
Joined: 09 Jun 2009
|
| Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 10:51 pm Post subject: Re: US Surgeon General position on obese teachers/role model |
|
|
| Mikejelai wrote: |
| http://www.surgeongeneral.gov/topics/obesity/calltoaction/2_2_2.htm |
Note that nowhere do they suggest overweight teachers should not be allowed to teach children.
Your view isn't radical. You have no amazing insight the rest of us are missing out on. You just happen to think weight should be considered for hiring purposes. In some businesses it is: I've yet to see a fat stewardess for example. Obviously super models aren't exactly popping buttons either.
Overweight teachers however aren't costing schools any extra money while on the job (they run on their own fuel, which they just happen to have a nice reserve of) and, despite evidence that being pretty will make the job easier sometimes, a fat person may still have an excellent mind, experience and a likable character about him or her.
A more interesting question would be is it OK to hire the skinny person for being skinny when both applications are otherwise the same. Frankly I say yes: in that case, the skinny person is the better candidate. Being overweight (significantly so) is unhealthy and I would rather hire a health person. Also being significantly overweight is not a pretty sight. All other things equal, I would choose skinny 100% of the time.
But it should only be a secondary consideration. The primary consideration should be 'can he or she do a better job than the other candidates'. Choosing the best candidate is simply good for business, and also good for our children. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
RMNC
Joined: 21 Jul 2010
|
| Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 11:15 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| So being fat is bad? Really... |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Carbon
Joined: 28 Jan 2011
|
| Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 11:17 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Its about time the fat people (obesity is one of the leading causes of preventable death) get the same hectoring as anyone else slowly killing themselves at the eventual cost of taxpayers (smokers, for example).
I can't smoke in the classroom, but 40 pounds overweight can shovel in a burger in front of the kids? It's not all good. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
ESL Milk "Everyday
Joined: 12 Sep 2007
|
| Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 11:24 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I'd say that intolerance tops obesity as being more of a danger to developing minds.
I mean, I really don't think that my students are sitting there thinking 'wow, I want to look just like him one day', but if I were to suddenly say that 'I HATE fat people', someone would probably agree, and then the whole class would get heated and it would be awful.
In other words, the obese probably have more right to be there than you, OP. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
|
| Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 11:48 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| jinks wrote: |
| Mr. Peabody wrote: |
| Again? I wonder what the Surgeon General thinks about obtuse teachers? |
Nice
OP - let it go.
What happened to the original thread? |
It was deleted, just like this one is going to be. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
shostahoosier
Joined: 14 Apr 2009
|
| Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 1:28 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Carbon wrote: |
Its about time the fat people (obesity is one of the leading causes of preventable death) get the same hectoring as anyone else slowly killing themselves at the eventual cost of taxpayers (smokers, for example).
I can't smoke in the classroom, but 40 pounds overweight can shovel in a burger in front of the kids? It's not all good. |
I didnt know that kids learned their eating habits from watching teachers eat.
Amazing stuff here on Daves....  |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
thegadfly
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
|
| Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 1:51 am Post subject: |
|
|
OP, did you even READ the report?
No one is denying that obesity is a problem, and no one is denying that something should be done about it.
What you are suggesting, however, would not have the intended beneficial effect, and would have many more negative effects -- therefore, it is a bad suggestion. Ta da! We're done!
Do you keep a banana in your ear to prevent radiation poisoning? I bet if you do, you won't get radiation poisoning -- bananas in the ear also prevent tiger attacks -- stick one in your ear and see if you get attacked by a tiger! I bet you won't!
(See, this is me suggesting something that has negligible or no effect on a problem, and I am comparing it to the effect your suggestion would have on the problem you brought up -- in case you don't quite pick up on it! Helpful me!)
Last edited by thegadfly on Fri May 06, 2011 1:59 am; edited 1 time in total |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Son Deureo!
Joined: 30 Apr 2003
|
| Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 1:54 am Post subject: |
|
|
You're right. Teachers should be shoveling salads and celery into their faces during class time to set a good example.
I'm going to go one step further and also do a set of 20 pushups during every 10 minutes of class time that I teach in order to model a healthy lifestyle. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
jjurabong
Joined: 22 Jan 2003
|
| Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 1:59 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Carbon wrote: |
| I can't smoke in the classroom, but 40 pounds overweight can shovel in a burger in front of the kids? It's not all good. |
While I agree that teachers should be required to set a better example, this is not a great comparison. Are the kids going to inhale second-hand fat? I think not. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
thegadfly
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
|
| Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 2:03 am Post subject: |
|
|
...you mean I should stop doing my show-and-tell piece in class about how to make funnel-cake-battered, deep-fried bacon-wrapped butter sticks (fried in pure duck fat, and garnished with ranch dressing?)
It is always such a crowd pleaser! ...and I seldom have more than 2 heart attacks per class! |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Ramen
Joined: 15 Apr 2008
|
| Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 2:51 am Post subject: |
|
|
i still like my burgers super sized.  |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
imGosu
Joined: 25 Apr 2011
|
| Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 3:54 am Post subject: |
|
|
I worked for a bariatric surgeon for more then 2 years.
The cause of Obesity is in a gray area. It an be caused by genetics, a disease, or environmental factors.
Yes, having a healthy diet and exercise will help, but that is not always the case.
Since it is in the gray area of being a choice and a disease, to segregate obese people is wrong.
Although I do believe there are somethings that obese people should not have.
IE: Electric wheelchairs (Even though they walk perfectly fine), Handy cap stickers (Even though the only problem is that they are obese).
This does NOT fall in the same category as smoking since smoking is a choice. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
FAQ
Search
Memberlist
Usergroups
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
