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sadguy



Joined: 13 Feb 2011

PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 9:59 pm    Post subject: when co-teachers fight Reply with quote

two of my co-teachers are fighting and it kind of makes me happy inside. it makes me happy because i've gotten into arguments with these two particular teachers before and the arguments i had with them made me second guess my own sanity, but it's obvious that they are the crazy ones.

now they are both talking to me in private, giving me juicy gossip, trying to make the other look bad.
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Zackback



Joined: 05 Nov 2010
Location: Kyungbuk

PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep specific notes of al the details and be ready to use it later if need be.
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Kaypea



Joined: 09 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's awesome that they're dragging you into it. Everybody at my school is so darn nice, there's no drama. Razz
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curlygirl



Joined: 26 Mar 2007
Location: Pundang, Seohyeon dong

PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well it's like world war 3 in the English teachers' room this week. Thankfully I'm not a part of it - yet.

Situational Rundown:

Ex-English teacher, in her 50s and now teaching music this year insists on keeping her place in the English teachers' room but wants to call the shots (no loud talking in English, no interrupting her quiet time etc).

This year's Korean English teacher is in her 30s, speaks great English and doesn't allow herself to be pushed around.

The 50 year old has taken exception to the younger teacher for no discernable reason and is calling her evil, a bad mother etc ad infinitum. She's actually put one of those portable partitions between their two desks.

Two weeks ago apparently I was the devil incarnate and not a teacher according to the 50 year old. I'd put this behaviour down to menopause but the other NET assures me that she flys off the handle at different people every few weeks. Where does this attitude come from? After more than 4 years working in Korea I have never seen the like of this woman.
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cj1976



Joined: 26 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm going to go ahead and risk the backlash by saying that in my experience, every time a group of women spend time together, this kind of thing happens a lot. The bitching, backstabbing and gossipping all leadto tension and factions being formed. Men tend to just be more direct and less passive-aggressive.
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happiness



Joined: 04 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

curlygirl wrote:
Well it's like world war 3 in the English teachers' room this week. Thankfully I'm not a part of it - yet.

Situational Rundown:

Ex-English teacher, in her 50s and now teaching music this year insists on keeping her place in the English teachers' room but wants to call the shots (no loud talking in English, no interrupting her quiet time etc).

This year's Korean English teacher is in her 30s, speaks great English and doesn't allow herself to be pushed around.

The 50 year old has taken exception to the younger teacher for no discernable reason and is calling her evil, a bad mother etc ad infinitum. She's actually put one of those portable partitions between their two desks.

Two weeks ago apparently I was the devil incarnate and not a teacher according to the 50 year old. I'd put this behaviour down to menopause but the other NET assures me that she flys off the handle at different people every few weeks. Where does this attitude come from? After more than 4 years working in Korea I have never seen the like of this woman.


calling a bad mother? sounds like what mother in laws do to boss around their DILs....you dont obey me so youre bad...hmmm

sounds like she was displaced from her postiion of authority/seniority and shes having a hissyfit, which is unforunately accepted her because shes a senior and older. loss of face and all that.
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Summer Wine



Joined: 20 Mar 2005
Location: Next to a River

PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm going to go ahead and risk the backlash by saying that in my experience, every time a group of women spend time together, this kind of thing happens a lot. The bitching, backstabbing and gossipping all leadto tension and factions being formed. Men tend to just be more direct and less passive-aggressive.


I would second this. Most Korean Male teachers bring the issue to you, even if they have back up like a Taekwondo Black belt teacher to support them. Though it ends there and then.

Most women seem to hold onto a grudge like its a 9 month pregnancy and some day it will come out.

I favor the mens way, even if you get a smack or two in the face its usually ended there. Whereas a woman can poison the entire environment around you so much that everyone hates you even though its really just her who has an issue with you.

Though, others will have thier own opinion.
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CtotheB



Joined: 03 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

:facepalm:
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MitchMartin



Joined: 14 Jan 2010
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2011 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I feel really bad for NT's who think that getting into fights with their co-teachers is their fault...

After all, we get all this training to come and TEACH, but we don't get any people skills dealing with Koreans. How are we supposed to know the problems a Korean in her 30s is facing. I mean sure, NOW I know that any single Korean girl batting 30 is afraid of dying an old maid... but when I first got here, who knew?

Just always remember...

IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT!!

Smile
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Squire



Joined: 26 Sep 2010
Location: Jeollanam-do

PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2011 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd like to see my own co teacher get into a fight with another Korean teacher. The spineless cow wouldn't dare go up against someone on an even footing. Even better, send her over to the UK to spend every day working with a humourless, unreasonable control freak with a superiority complex toward foreigners. She wouldn't last two minutes in my world
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caniff



Joined: 03 Feb 2004
Location: All over the map

PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2011 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"When elephants fight, the trees and grass suffer."
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sadguy



Joined: 13 Feb 2011

PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2011 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MitchMartin wrote:
I feel really bad for NT's who think that getting into fights with their co-teachers is their fault...

After all, we get all this training to come and TEACH, but we don't get any people skills dealing with Koreans. How are we supposed to know the problems a Korean in her 30s is facing. I mean sure, NOW I know that any single Korean girl batting 30 is afraid of dying an old maid... but when I first got here, who knew?

Just always remember...

IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT!!

Smile


its funny you say this because one of them is 39 and still single. i think she's kind of losing her marbles.
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Squire



Joined: 26 Sep 2010
Location: Jeollanam-do

PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2011 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sadguy wrote:


its funny you say this because one of them is 39 and still single. i think she's kind of losing her marbles.


I think my coteacher is in the same boat. Mid 30s, overweight, unattractive, living with her parents and grandparents... and I'm sure she takes it out on me. I might just go out and find someone for her myself. It has the makings of a good film. In the end she'll become easy going, develop a sense of humour and start to like being an English teacher

If only it were possible Crying or Very sad
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West Coast Tatterdemalion



Joined: 31 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2011 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

These Korean women do it to themselves. I have no sympathy for them. They think they are all that and a bag of chips when, in actuality, most of them are plain janes. But here, because of the gender imbalance, they get that princessy feeling. And 30 years old is the death knell here if you aren't married. For Koreans, their lives are pretty much over my 30. After that, it is pay exorbitant money for your kids education, work yourself to death each day everyday, provide for your parents and then, finally, die. When they hit 30, they are desperate and know that their lives in Korea are screwed.
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barbaricyip



Joined: 30 Apr 2010

PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2011 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just my two cents but the most passive-aggressive people I've met in Korea have been men. They never forget the day they didn't get their way and are shameless in the length of a grudge.
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