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Opportunities for young people diminishing as time goes by?

 
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recessiontime



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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 1:38 am    Post subject: Opportunities for young people diminishing as time goes by? Reply with quote

Sometimes I feel that the future has a lot less opportunities for young people. Jobs that are looked down on today will be seen as prestigious in the next 50 years. I can see a family in West congratulating their daughter for being cast in their first porno film. I seriously think that's where our society is heading.
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Fishead soup



Joined: 24 Jun 2007
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lots of the municipal type jobs such as garbage man or street cleaners or school janitors used to be viewed as something for only high school dropouts. Now these are viewed as well paid positions that you need connections to get.

By the way there is a late night reality program in which ladies compete to show off their porn star abilities. It's made for Korea so a lot is fuzzed out. They get judged by a panel of ex porn stars.
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nukeday



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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fishead soup wrote:

By the way there is a late night reality program in which ladies compete to show off their porn star abilities. It's made for Korea so a lot is fuzzed out. They get judged by a panel of ex porn stars.


Well we all know reality programs reflect reality.

Are you a Survivor? I hope you won the Immunity Challenge!
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TSE



Joined: 24 May 2011

PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fishead soup wrote:
Lots of the municipal type jobs such as garbage man or street cleaners or school janitors used to be viewed as something for only high school dropouts. Now these are viewed as well paid positions that you need connections to get.


I'd really like some numbers on this, because I'm fairly certain that most garbage men aren't Ph. Ds and street cleaners aren't researching physical chemistry in their free time, all thanks to the hook-up by their governor uncles.
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Hugo85



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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TSE wrote:
Fishead soup wrote:
Lots of the municipal type jobs such as garbage man or street cleaners or school janitors used to be viewed as something for only high school dropouts. Now these are viewed as well paid positions that you need connections to get.


I'd really like some numbers on this, because I'm fairly certain that most garbage men aren't Ph. Ds and street cleaners aren't researching physical chemistry in their free time, all thanks to the hook-up by their governor uncles.


In Quebec garbage man is about 60k a year with a lot of advantages. But there's a lot of cons to it.
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recessiontime



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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 4:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Australia, you need connections to get into the mining business. Straight from the horses mouth.

Things seem to be getting harder, from all directions. Some might think that my original post was some hyperbole or slippery slope but it's what I honestly believe. Anecdotal things like Canadian parents celebrating over their children being "accepted" into the EPIK program in Korea after graduating university as if they got into medical school is surely signs of the time.
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morrisonhotel



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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

recessiontime wrote:
In Australia, you need connections to get into the mining business. Straight from the horses mouth.

Things seem to be getting harder, from all directions. Some might think that my original post was some hyperbole or slippery slope but it's what I honestly believe. Anecdotal things like Canadian parents celebrating over their children being "accepted" into the EPIK program in Korea after graduating university as if they got into medical school is surely signs of the time.


It certainly seems to be getting harder. People are actually paying for internships now. You know it's bad when even those who went to public schools and good universities are struggling. I'm still confident that what I've done outside teaching for the last 18 months and what I'm going to be doing next year will be able to get me on the career ladder.
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recessiontime



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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 5:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

morrisonhotel wrote:
recessiontime wrote:
In Australia, you need connections to get into the mining business. Straight from the horses mouth.

Things seem to be getting harder, from all directions. Some might think that my original post was some hyperbole or slippery slope but it's what I honestly believe. Anecdotal things like Canadian parents celebrating over their children being "accepted" into the EPIK program in Korea after graduating university as if they got into medical school is surely signs of the time.


It certainly seems to be getting harder. People are actually paying for internships now. You know it's bad when even those who went to public schools and good universities are struggling. I'm still confident that what I've done outside teaching for the last 18 months and what I'm going to be doing next year will be able to get me on the career ladder.


thanks for posting the article, even I was stunned.
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West Coast Tatterdemalion



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess it will be time to turn to crime.
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Triban



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nukeday wrote:
Fishead soup wrote:

By the way there is a late night reality program in which ladies compete to show off their porn star abilities. It's made for Korea so a lot is fuzzed out. They get judged by a panel of ex porn stars.


Well we all know reality programs reflect reality.

Are you a Survivor? I hope you won the Immunity Challenge!


It is a Korean show? I heard it was South African.
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myenglishisno



Joined: 08 Mar 2011
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

recessiontime wrote:
In Australia, you need connections to get into the mining business. Straight from the horses mouth.

Things seem to be getting harder, from all directions. Some might think that my original post was some hyperbole or slippery slope but it's what I honestly believe. Anecdotal things like Canadian parents celebrating over their children being "accepted" into the EPIK program in Korea after graduating university as if they got into medical school is surely signs of the time.


My parents keep telling me to stay here. I've been in Korea for four years and every time I entertain the possibility of moving back, they remind me that there is absolutely nothing for me in the Maritimes. Looking at my friends from Facebook confirms this... even people with trades and "useful degrees" are doing menial work and being paid little for it.
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Xylox



Joined: 09 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

myenglishisno wrote:
recessiontime wrote:
In Australia, you need connections to get into the mining business. Straight from the horses mouth.

Things seem to be getting harder, from all directions. Some might think that my original post was some hyperbole or slippery slope but it's what I honestly believe. Anecdotal things like Canadian parents celebrating over their children being "accepted" into the EPIK program in Korea after graduating university as if they got into medical school is surely signs of the time.


My parents keep telling me to stay here. I've been in Korea for four years and every time I entertain the possibility of moving back, they remind me that there is absolutely nothing for me in the Maritimes. Looking at my friends from Facebook confirms this... even people with trades and "useful degrees" are doing menial work and being paid little for it.


I got a buddy from the coast, he says most people move to the oilsands, work for a contract, get paid then go and collect unemployment back home until they run out of cash. Rinse, repeat.
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myenglishisno



Joined: 08 Mar 2011
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xylox wrote:
myenglishisno wrote:
recessiontime wrote:
In Australia, you need connections to get into the mining business. Straight from the horses mouth.

Things seem to be getting harder, from all directions. Some might think that my original post was some hyperbole or slippery slope but it's what I honestly believe. Anecdotal things like Canadian parents celebrating over their children being "accepted" into the EPIK program in Korea after graduating university as if they got into medical school is surely signs of the time.


My parents keep telling me to stay here. I've been in Korea for four years and every time I entertain the possibility of moving back, they remind me that there is absolutely nothing for me in the Maritimes. Looking at my friends from Facebook confirms this... even people with trades and "useful degrees" are doing menial work and being paid little for it.


I got a buddy from the coast, he says most people move to the oilsands, work for a contract, get paid then go and collect unemployment back home until they run out of cash. Rinse, repeat.


Yup. My friends who are into physical labour do that. My friends that aren't stock shelves, work as cashiers, waiters, call centre operators, gas station attendants and a bunch of other jobs that pay below 30k a year and often below 20k per year.

The only people I know who are doing semi well are degree-less with a specific trade, in the military, a few have lucked out and some are in Korea. There are options but they're not for everyone. I'm glad I don't mind teaching in Korea because if I hated it I'd still have to stick it out here until the loan is gone Razz
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